North Dakota Preps

Thursday, October 4th
Velva 6 @ Des Lacs-Burlington 12

Friday, October 5th
Region 1
#3 Maple Valley-Enderlin 6 @ Milnor-North Sargent 28
Oakes 36 @ May-Port-CG 12
Linton-HMB 22 @ RV Northern Cass 8

Region 2
Westhope-Newburg-Glenburn 36 @ RV Langdon 42
Hatton-Northwood 36 @ Midway-Minto 56
#2 Larimore 41 @ North Prairie 27
Park River-FL 20 @ Harvey-Wells County 14

Region 3
Watford City 26 @ Williams County 28
New Town 0 @ #1 Stanley-Powers Lake 50
Garrison-Max 7 @ Berthold-Our Redeemer's 40

Region 4
#5 Hazen 52 @ Standing Rock 6
#4 Heart River 47 @ Richardton-Taylor 0
Grant County-Flasher 18 @ Southern McLean 8
Killdeer 27 @ New Salem-Glen Ullin 6

Saturday, October 6th
Region 1
Kidder County 16 @ Oak Grove 12

Friday, October 5th
Region 1
Maple Valley-Enderlin (5-0; 6-0) @ Milnor-North Sargent (3-2; 3-3)
Oakes (3-2; 4-2) @ May-Port-CG (2-3; 3-3)
Linton-HMB (3-2; 3-3) @ Northern Cass (4-1; 4-2)

Region 2
Westhope-Newburg-Glenburn (4-1; 4-3) @ Langdon (4-1; 6-1)
Hatton-Northwood (0-5; 0-6) @ Midway-Minto (0-5; 0-5)
Larimore (5-0; 6-0) @ North Prairie (1-4; 1-5)
Park River-FL (3-2; 3-3) @ Harvey-Wells County (3-2; 3-3)

Region 3
Watford City (4-1; 4-2) @ WIlliams County (3-2; 3-4)
New Town (0-5; 1-5) @ Stanley-Powers Lake (5-0; 6-0)
Velva (3-2; 3-3) @ Des Lacs-Burlington (2-3; 3-3)
Garrison-Max (1-4; 1-6) @ Berthold-Our Redeemer's (2-3; 2-4)

Region 4
Hazen (4-1; 4-2) @ Standing Rock (0-5; 0-6)
Heart River (4-1; 5-1) @ Richardton-Taylor (3-2; 4-3)
Grant County-Flasher (2-3; 3-3) @ Southern McLean (1-4; 2-4)
Killdeer (4-1; 4-3) @ New Salem-Glen Ullin (2-3; 3-3)

Saturday, October 6th
Region 1
Kidder County (0-5; 0-6) @ Oak Grove (0-5; 0-6)

YTD: 89-16 (12-4 in Week 6)

what are tie breakers? in region 4 hazen, hr, and killdeer could all have one loss. hr beat hazen, hazen beat killdeer and killdeer beat hr. is it point spread? in those games or all region games?

Park River vs. Harvey is gonna be huge. It's the Hornets homecoming, and they're gonna be pumped after dropping two straight. Winner will more than likely end up as the #4 in Region 2. I can't see Harvey going 3-4 and killing their playoff chances. Hornets 22 Aggies 16

triplebbb wrote:what are tie breakers? in region 4 hazen, hr, and killdeer could all have one loss. hr beat hazen, hazen beat killdeer and killdeer beat hr. is it point spread? in those games or all region games?

If those 3 teams do not lose any more games and finished with identical region records it goes to point differential.

Hazen is +16 vs. Killdeer and -8 vs. Heart River for a combined +8
Heart River is +8 vs. Hazen and -9 vs. Killdeer for a combined -1
Killdeer is -16 vs. Hazen and +9 vs. Heart river for a combined -7

Hazen would have the highest point differential so Hazen would get the #1 seed, however after the #1 seed is determined, the 2 and 3 seeds are determined by head to head results of the two remaining teams up for discussion which would put Killdeer at #2 and Heart River at #3 despite H.R. having a better point differential.

Seems to be a lot of highly competitive teams in region 4. Interested in seeing how that region ends up.

Anybody got the rundown on the HR-Kildeer game? That was a big upset in Reg.4. What happened?

MV-E 27 @ M-NS 20—The Falcons unleashed their passing attack on Northern Cass last week, and I see them building off of that big win by trying to do the same this week in Milnor. The Bulldogs have been hot lately, winning their last 3 after starting 0-3, but will their secondary be able to stop the undefeated Falcons? The Bulldogs’ superior size will keep them in the game, but I’m not sure if they can score with the Falcons. With a win in either of the next two weeks, MV-E would secure their first region title as a co-op.


Oakes 34 @ May-Port-CG 22—Coming off a tough loss at home to M-NS, the Tornadoes need this win to keep both their playoff chances and thoughts of hosting a playoff game a possibility. The Patriots have been able to put a decent amount of points on the board this year offensively, but I see only one thing standing between Oakes and their 4th region win of the year: A long bus trip.


Linton 14 @ NC 26—Speaking of long bus trips…. This could be the shortest game of the year time wise, with both teams preferring to run the football. I don’t see the Lions being able to stop Northern Cass, who racked up 275 yards on the ground last week at Enderlin.


KC 12 @ OG 20—Does last week’s tough, and possibly controversial, loss against the Patiots inspire or deflate the Grovers? This could realistically be both team’s last shot at a win in 2012, so expect emotions to be running high and the entire playbook thrown at each other in this contest.

OKCfan wrote:MV-E 27 @ M-NS 20—The Falcons unleashed their passing attack on Northern Cass last week, and I see them building off of that big win by trying to do the same this week in Milnor. The Bulldogs have been hot lately, winning their last 3 after starting 0-3, but will their secondary be able to stop the undefeated Falcons? The Bulldogs’ superior size will keep them in the game, but I’m not sure if they can score with the Falcons. With a win in either of the next two weeks, MV-E would secure their first region title as a co-op.


Oakes 34 @ May-Port-CG 22—Coming off a tough loss at home to M-NS, the Tornadoes need this win to keep both their playoff chances and thoughts of hosting a playoff game a possibility. The Patriots have been able to put a decent amount of points on the board this year offensively, but I see only one thing standing between Oakes and their 4th region win of the year: A long bus trip.


Linton 14 @ NC 26—Speaking of long bus trips…. This could be the shortest game of the year time wise, with both teams preferring to run the football. I don’t see the Lions being able to stop Northern Cass, who racked up 275 yards on the ground last week at Enderlin.


KC 12 @ OG 20—Does last week’s tough, and possibly controversial, loss against the Patiots inspire or deflate the Grovers? This could realistically be both team’s last shot at a win in 2012, so expect emotions to be running high and the entire playbook thrown at each other in this contest.

With it being Oak Grove's homecoming...I believe they'll put last week behind them and come out strong.

I worry about Homecoming being more of a distraction than a motivation though. I can't imagine too many coaches look forward to homecoming week.

OKCfan wrote:I worry about Homecoming being more of a distraction than a motivation though. I can't imagine too many coaches look forward to homecoming week.

I don't think its ever been that much of an issue with Oak Grove...they've always played well on their past Homecoming Games (I'm thinking 5-1 in the past 6 years)

Run4Fun2009 wrote:

OKCfan wrote:I worry about Homecoming being more of a distraction than a motivation though. I can't imagine too many coaches look forward to homecoming week.

I don't think its ever been that much of an issue with Oak Grove...they've always played well on their past Homecoming Games (I'm thinking 5-1 in the past 6 years)

And those wins were against?
I'm not saying that the Grovers aren't successful on Homecoming games, but often schools choose teams they feel they have the best shot at beating for their homecoming.

OKCfan wrote:

Run4Fun2009 wrote:

OKCfan wrote:I worry about Homecoming being more of a distraction than a motivation though. I can't imagine too many coaches look forward to homecoming week.

I don't think its ever been that much of an issue with Oak Grove...they've always played well on their past Homecoming Games (I'm thinking 5-1 in the past 6 years)

And those wins were against?
I'm not saying that the Grovers aren't successful on Homecoming games, but often schools choose teams they feel they have the best shot at beating for their homecoming.

I take it back they were 4-2 in the past 6 years
First 5 years were in Class AA
2006 - not 100% sure on who they played...it was a Win though
2007 - Grafton (won 27-12) - State Title Year
2008 - Devils Lake (lost 7-35) - DL lost to Watford City in State Semifinals that year (Watford won it all)
2009 - Grafton (won 34-22) - Grafton was down this year
2010 - Wahpeton (lost 0-30) - Winless year for Oak Grove
Class A
2011 - May-Port-CG (won 26-6) - OG finished year 2-6; MPCG finished 0-8
2012 - Kidder County

How did Oak Grove go from being AA to being 9-man in the next 2 year football plan? Park Christian carry the program?

OKCfan wrote:MV-E 27 @ M-NS 20—The Falcons unleashed their passing attack on Northern Cass last week, and I see them building off of that big win by trying to do the same this week in Milnor. The Bulldogs have been hot lately, winning their last 3 after starting 0-3, but will their secondary be able to stop the undefeated Falcons? The Bulldogs’ superior size will keep them in the game, but I’m not sure if they can score with the Falcons. With a win in either of the next two weeks, MV-E would secure their first region title as a co-op.


Oakes 34 @ May-Port-CG 22—Coming off a tough loss at home to M-NS, the Tornadoes need this win to keep both their playoff chances and thoughts of hosting a playoff game a possibility. The Patriots have been able to put a decent amount of points on the board this year offensively, but I see only one thing standing between Oakes and their 4th region win of the year: A long bus trip.


Linton 14 @ NC 26—Speaking of long bus trips…. This could be the shortest game of the year time wise, with both teams preferring to run the football. I don’t see the Lions being able to stop Northern Cass, who racked up 275 yards on the ground last week at Enderlin.


KC 12 @ OG 20—Does last week’s tough, and possibly controversial, loss against the Patiots inspire or deflate the Grovers? This could realistically be both team’s last shot at a win in 2012, so expect emotions to be running high and the entire playbook thrown at each other in this contest.

You must be a great Region I division A football mind because those game insights are very informative and great to read!

MNTwinsFan wrote:How did Oak Grove go from being AA to being 9-man in the next 2 year football plan? Park Christian carry the program?

Park Christian's male enrollment being added in put OG at the bottom of the Class AA enrollments. Oak Grove has also been steadily declining in numbers in the recent years. (I know the senior class doesn't have anything to do with this year's plan but this class is just a little smaller than average at the school: 14 boys, 9 girls)

MNTwinsFan wrote:

OKCfan wrote:MV-E 27 @ M-NS 20—The Falcons unleashed their passing attack on Northern Cass last week, and I see them building off of that big win by trying to do the same this week in Milnor. The Bulldogs have been hot lately, winning their last 3 after starting 0-3, but will their secondary be able to stop the undefeated Falcons? The Bulldogs’ superior size will keep them in the game, but I’m not sure if they can score with the Falcons. With a win in either of the next two weeks, MV-E would secure their first region title as a co-op.


Oakes 34 @ May-Port-CG 22—Coming off a tough loss at home to M-NS, the Tornadoes need this win to keep both their playoff chances and thoughts of hosting a playoff game a possibility. The Patriots have been able to put a decent amount of points on the board this year offensively, but I see only one thing standing between Oakes and their 4th region win of the year: A long bus trip.


Linton 14 @ NC 26—Speaking of long bus trips…. This could be the shortest game of the year time wise, with both teams preferring to run the football. I don’t see the Lions being able to stop Northern Cass, who racked up 275 yards on the ground last week at Enderlin.


KC 12 @ OG 20—Does last week’s tough, and possibly controversial, loss against the Patiots inspire or deflate the Grovers? This could realistically be both team’s last shot at a win in 2012, so expect emotions to be running high and the entire playbook thrown at each other in this contest.

You must be a great Region I division A football mind because those game insights are very informative and great to read!

Well thank you for the compliment

Oakes 36
MPCG 0
4th Q

The usual tie breaker for Region 4 is point differential between the tied team so if these three team Killdeer, Hazen, and Heart River end up tied I believe Hazen will get first on point differential then Killdeer will get second by head to head with HR

STAN-PL 50
NEW TOWN 0

Anybody figured out region 1 for the last week. It could be a 5 way tie at 5-2. Tie breaker could be crazy.
A team could win and be region champ. Or loose and not be in the playoffs.

oline- You are correct the way I see it if Reg. 1 uses the standard tie breaker then Oakes can win by 7 or more and get the number 1 seed and lose and not make the playoffs as long as there are no upsets with the bottom 3 teams.
For a 5 way tie Oakes has to win

Oakes by +7

1 Oakes
2 E-MV
3 L-HMB
4 NC

Oakes by less than 7
1 M-NS
2 Oakes
3 E-MV
4 L-HMB

So if MV-E wins they get first..if they lose by 7 or more they get 2nd...if they lose by less than 7, they get 3rd? Better to win or get blown out then to keep it close then? Also crazy the MNS and NC are the bubble teams. Linton and Oakes are automatically in with every scenario or does it all depend on points???

Region 1: Teams of Interest

MV-E def. L-HMB 24-12
MV-E def. NC 26-22
M-NS def. MV-E 28-6 (max 17 pts)
M-NS def. Oakes 28-26
NC def. M-NS 28-20
NC def. Oakes 14-7
L-HMB def. NC 22-8
L-HMB def. M-NS 14-13
Oakes def. L-HMB 19-6

MV-E -> -1
MN-S -> +10
NC -> -3
L-HMB -> -10
Oakes -> +4

Week 8 Games (Region Record):
(+4) Oakes (4-2) @ (-1) Maple Valley-Enderlin (5-1)
Oak Grove (0-6) @ (+10) Milnor-North Sargent (4-2)
May-Port-CG (2-4) @ (-10) Linton-HMB (4-2)
(-3) Northern Cass (4-2) @ Kidder County (1-5)

^ still need to play Week 7

V(From NDHSAA)V
Step 1. Among tied teams, the region record (*head-to-head competitions) determines placement.
*Head-to-head competitions are defined as an overall collective record among tied teams.
Step 2. If a tie still exists:

(A). The team with the highest point differential (17-point per game maximum) among those tied teams is first. Remove the first place team from the group.

(B). Repeat Step 2A until the region record between the remaining tied teams can be used.

CASE I: A five-team tie. Step 1, compare the point differentials among teams A, B, C, D and E. Team A has the highest point total. RULING: Team A is first. Then, the region record among the remaining tied teams, B is 2-1, C is 2-1, D is 1-2 and E is 1-2. In this case B & C are 2nd & 3rd as determined by region record with Step 1.

Sorry Run4Fun, but I think your point differentials are a little off. Among the 5 teams and those games played just against each other, here are the point differentials.

1. M-NS +10 (2-2) <Loss to NC by 8, Loss to Linton by 1, beat Oakes by 2, and beat MV-E by 17>
2. Oakes +4 (1-2) <Beat Linton by 13, Loss to NC by 7, Loss to M-NS by 2, play MV-E next week>
3. MV-E -1 (2-1) <Beat Linton by 12, Beat NC by 4, loss to M-NS by 17, play Oakes next week>
4. NC -3 (2-2) <Beat M-NS by 8, Beat Oakes by 7, loss to MV-E by 4, loss to Linton by 14>
5. Linton -10 (2-2) <Loss to Oakes by 13, Beat M-NS by 1, Loss to MV-E by 12, Beat NC by 14>