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Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:08 pm
by SUFan
Can they compete? thoughts and opinions please.

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:58 pm
by GRIDIRON GURU
It's a crying shame that this co-op was ever allowed to happen.

but yes they can compete I would pick them no lower than 5th in the east region.

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:23 am
by d_fense
GRIDIRON GURU wrote:It's a crying shame that this co-op was ever allowed to happen.

but yes they can compete I would pick them no lower than 5th in the east region.


Just currious why you think that this co-op should have never been alowed to happen. Is it because distance and the time they have to spend on the road for practice?

There is not much difference between class A and AA. That being said, I don't know how they will do this year. They struggled last year in region 1. I am not sure if I would pick them to be in the top 4 of region 1, if they where still in it this year.

I didn't care for their offence last year, but I did like a couple of their linemen and their quarterback wasn't bad. I think they have their best 3 players back. At least that is how I remember them.

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:31 am
by GRIDIRON GURU
Just currious why you think that this co-op should have never been alowed to happen. Is it because distance and the time they have to spend on the road for practice?

YES! and that fact that if you have 127 male students you should be able to field two 9-man teams.


There is not much difference between class A and AA. That being said, I don't know how they will do this year. They struggled last year in region 1. I am not sure if I would pick them to be in the top 4 of region 1, if they where still in it this year.

There is not much difference Between A and AA in the Bottom four of each region but there is a big difference in the top two or three in each region.


I didn't care for their offence last year, I agree! That is the main thing that will keep them out of the playoffs but I did like a couple of their linemen and their quarterback wasn't bad. I think they have their best 3 players back. At least that is how I remember them.

They have a bunch of tough kids with a lot of Varsity experience, if they ran more of a ball control type of offense they would be tough to beat.

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:28 pm
by Indy5
d_fense wrote:
GRIDIRON GURU wrote:It's a crying shame that this co-op was ever allowed to happen.

but yes they can compete I would pick them no lower than 5th in the east region.


Just currious why you think that this co-op should have never been alowed to happen. Is it because distance and the time they have to spend on the road for practice?

There is not much difference between class A and AA. That being said, I don't know how they will do this year. They struggled last year in region 1. I am not sure if I would pick them to be in the top 4 of region 1, if they where still in it this year.

I didn't care for their offence last year, but I did like a couple of their linemen and their quarterback wasn't bad. I think they have their best 3 players back. At least that is how I remember them.

What type of offense did they run?

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:29 pm
by GRIDIRON GURU
Some type of spread

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:27 pm
by d_fense
Indy5 wrote:
d_fense wrote:
GRIDIRON GURU wrote:It's a crying shame that this co-op was ever allowed to happen.

but yes they can compete I would pick them no lower than 5th in the east region.


Just currious why you think that this co-op should have never been alowed to happen. Is it because distance and the time they have to spend on the road for practice?

There is not much difference between class A and AA. That being said, I don't know how they will do this year. They struggled last year in region 1. I am not sure if I would pick them to be in the top 4 of region 1, if they where still in it this year.

I didn't care for their offence last year, but I did like a couple of their linemen and their quarterback wasn't bad. I think they have their best 3 players back. At least that is how I remember them.

What type of offense did they run?


Their base seemed to be, double twins with a pistol (qb in a short shotgun with a running back straight behind the qb). The "Pistol" seems to be a little bit of a fad thing. Some people seem to get it to work for them.

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:25 pm
by Indy5
d_fense wrote:
Indy5 wrote:
d_fense wrote:
GRIDIRON GURU wrote:It's a crying shame that this co-op was ever allowed to happen.

but yes they can compete I would pick them no lower than 5th in the east region.


Just currious why you think that this co-op should have never been alowed to happen. Is it because distance and the time they have to spend on the road for practice?

There is not much difference between class A and AA. That being said, I don't know how they will do this year. They struggled last year in region 1. I am not sure if I would pick them to be in the top 4 of region 1, if they where still in it this year.

I didn't care for their offence last year, but I did like a couple of their linemen and their quarterback wasn't bad. I think they have their best 3 players back. At least that is how I remember them.

What type of offense did they run?


Their base seemed to be, double twins with a pistol (qb in a short shotgun with a running back straight behind the qb). The "Pistol" seems to be a little bit of a fad thing. Some people seem to get it to work for them.

I don't see why this offense is so bad. If they have a pretty good QB it could be hard to stop. Teams in ND aren't very used to defending a spread and some even try and stay in their 53 which can create matchup problems. Takes some speed to execute but it can be effective.

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:24 pm
by d_fense
I didn't say it was a bad offense. I don't really think they had the players to do it justice. There is no question that the quarterback is very important in this offense, but the line is more important than the other skill position players. Often defenses will send more rushers than there are O linemen to block them. You had better have a skilled line to give the qb time and make the defense pay.

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:24 pm
by Indy5
d_fense wrote:I didn't say it was a bad offense. I don't really think they had the players to do it justice. There is no question that the quarterback is very important in this offense, but the line is more important than the other skill position players. Often defenses will send more rushers than there are O linemen to block them. You had better have a skilled line to give the qb time and make the defense pay.

I wasn't directing it towards you, more towards Gridiron Guru.

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:13 pm
by SUFan
Head football coach Bill Nelson resigned Monday the 18th

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:18 pm
by ndsportsfan98
SUFan wrote:Head football coach Bill Nelson resigned Monday the 18th


Anyone know the reasoning here? This isn't another Oakes deal is it?

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:23 am
by GRIDIRON GURU
Thats weird, I saw him and some of his staff at the NDSU coaching clinic a couple weeks ago.

Too bad for those kids, they have not had any sense of consistency in a coaching staff thier whole high school career.

Any rumblings on who will be his replacement?

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:19 am
by GRIDIRON GURU
I heard this weekend that Dave Zinke from Rolla took the Barnes/Griggs county Job.

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:16 pm
by benelli1
Yes, that is correct. The administration announced to the students on Thursday, last week. Zinke met with the players this morning.

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:50 am
by witherspoon
Zinke a great coach and a better person, he'll do well!

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:39 pm
by GRIDIRON GURU
witherspoon wrote:Zinke a great coach and a better person, he'll do well!


I agree, great coach! great guy. I wish him well.

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:22 pm
by thewanderer
who is their QB. Is he back from last year?

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:52 pm
by SUFan
thewanderer wrote:who is their QB. Is he back from last year?


Bill Engle. He'll be a senior this fall

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:35 am
by thewanderer
He is a good basketball player. I am sure he is quick on the football field as well. does he have any arm strength?

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:31 pm
by SUFan
thewanderer wrote:He is a good basketball player. I am sure he is quick on the football field as well. does he have any arm strength?


from what i've seen he's got decent arm strength. more of a short yardage quarterback but heves a pretty ball

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:00 pm
by Fritters78
[quote="witherspoon"]Zinke a great coach and a better person, he'll do well!
Yes he is a great coach and is great for the kids gana be a tough year but we will adjust.

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:01 pm
by MNTwinsFan
I hear Engel has been hurt the last couple games, anyone have any insight?

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:11 pm
by SUFan
Broken Shoulder or Collar bone. season ending

Re: Griggs Barnes County

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:06 am
by MNTwinsFan
That is too bad. Hope he is ready for hoops as he is a heck of a basketball player too. I actually heard he broke his collarbone, came back, and then broke it again.