Week 9

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Week 9

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:34 pm

Oak Grove 6 @ Central Cass 45
Grafton 30 @ Shanley 58
Kindred 0 @ Lisbon 28
Wahpeton 7 @ Valley City 42
Carrington 15 @ Devils Lake 29
St. Mary's @ Bishop Ryan
TMCHS 21 @ Bottineau 36
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Re: Week 9

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:36 pm

Oak Grove - going out on a limb...hoping!
Shanley
Lisbon - closer game than many may think
Valley City
Devils Lake - DL by 14+
St. Mary's
Bottineau - could go either way
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Re: Week 9

Postby ndndnd » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:31 pm

Oak Grove @ Central Cass
Shanley @ Grafton
Kindred @ Lisbon
Wahpeton @ Valley City
Carrington @ Devils Lake
St. Mary's @ Bishop Ryan
TMCHS @ Bottineau
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Re: Week 9

Postby baseball18 » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:44 pm

Central Cass- big
Shanley- in what will be close for half of the game but Shanley will pull away in the 2nd half
Lisbon- big
Wahpeton- starting to finally click. are they mathematically eliminated?
DL- by 2+ scores to clinch the West
St. Mary's- clinches West 2 seed
Bottineau- for pride
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Re: Week 9

Postby NDsports35 » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:22 am

Oak Grove @Central Cass- Big win
Shanley @ Grafton-Shanley won't mess around. Another game over 40.
Kindred @ Lisbon- Lisbon's the better team
Wahpeton @ Valley City- Valley City is just better.
Carrington @ Devils Lake- DL by 20+
St. Mary's @ Bishop Ryan- Tescher or not, blowout
TMCS @ Bottineau- Braves vs. Braves. Braves win. :) Turtle Mountain wants it more.
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Re: Week 9

Postby ClassBEast » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:00 pm

Central Cass 45
Oak Grove 6
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Re: Week 9

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:18 pm

ClassBEast wrote:Central Cass 45
Oak Grove 6


I have a question about this game...does the CC clock keeper understand the running clock rule?? A lot of unnecessary stoppages...especially late in the first half
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Re: Week 9

Postby Runninganalyzer » Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:32 pm

Yes he understands the rule that if the ball goes out of bounds the clock stops and the ball went out of bounds a lot in the first half
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Re: Week 9

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:48 pm

Runninganalyzer wrote:Yes he understands the rule that if the ball goes out of bounds the clock stops and the ball went out of bounds a lot in the first half


Doesn't matter if CC is up by 30+ points; the clock should continue to run (incomplete passes, out of bounds, etc). Just pointing it out...
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Re: Week 9

Postby old#63 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:26 am

I might be wrong, but I don't think the 30 point "continuous clock" rule goes into effect until after halftime.
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Re: Week 9

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:27 am

old#63 wrote:I might be wrong, but I don't think the 30 point "continuous clock" rule goes into effect until after halftime.


Yeah but this was occurring early in the 3rd quarter...at least by the end of the 3rd quarter the clock started to continually run
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Re: Week 9

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:58 am

Run4Fun2009 wrote:
ClassBEast wrote:Central Cass 45
Oak Grove 6


I have a question about this game...does the CC clock keeper understand the running clock rule?? A lot of unnecessary stoppages...especially late in the first half


I'll clarify that I was wrong with this statement...just frustrated when written (might have been cause I was still freezing from being at the game)
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Re: Week 9

Postby gobison#6 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:11 am

Run4Fun2009 wrote:
old#63 wrote:I might be wrong, but I don't think the 30 point "continuous clock" rule goes into effect until after halftime.


Yeah but this was occurring early in the 3rd quarter...at least by the end of the 3rd quarter the clock started to continually run

Central Cass scored all their points in the first half though, so it really wouldn't matter then would it? Just took a little longer to get away from the cold weather.
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Re: Week 9

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:28 am

gobison#6 wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:
old#63 wrote:I might be wrong, but I don't think the 30 point "continuous clock" rule goes into effect until after halftime.


Yeah but this was occurring early in the 3rd quarter...at least by the end of the 3rd quarter the clock started to continually run

Central Cass scored all their points in the first half though, so it really wouldn't matter then would it? Just took a little longer to get away from the cold weather.


Well I thought that it would run in the first half also (I checked the ruling on NDHSAA this morning); at least I know it did in the first half against Shanley...so maybe that's why I'm confused. But I think if it would have ran last night in the first half CC wouldn't have been able to score that last TD. Just my opinion i guess
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Re: Week 9

Postby Hinsa » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:37 pm

Running time is only in the second half.

That being said, I don't think the officiating crews understand running time. It seems like every crew administers it differently. Some stop the clock at a first down. Some stop it after a change of possession. Some stop it for a score. Some NEVER stop it. There is little consistency from crew to crew.
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Re: Week 9

Postby EDC » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:37 pm

Grafton's QB was listed as a freshman. Is that correct? He impressed the Shanley crowd - as well as the whole Grafton team. Grafton had over 30 players listed in the program but dressed about 18 with three players that looked injured?? Would have been fun to see how good Grafton would have been if not for all the injuries.
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Re: Week 9

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:39 pm

EDC wrote:Grafton's QB was listed as a freshman. Is that correct? He impressed the Shanley crowd - as well as the whole Grafton team. Grafton had over 30 players listed in the program but dressed about 18 with three players that looked injured?? Would have been fun to see how good Grafton would have been if not for all the injuries.


Grafton's QB is Jake Hanson and he's a Junior I believe
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Re: Week 9

Postby old#63 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:38 pm

Run4Fun2009 wrote:
EDC wrote:Grafton's QB was listed as a freshman. Is that correct? He impressed the Shanley crowd - as well as the whole Grafton team. Grafton had over 30 players listed in the program but dressed about 18 with three players that looked injured?? Would have been fun to see how good Grafton would have been if not for all the injuries.


Grafton's QB is Jake Hanson and he's a Junior I believe

Hanson is a junior. The whole team is fairly junior dominated. But, you're right, they don't go very deep.
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Re: Week 9

Postby thewanderer » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:02 pm

EDC wrote:Grafton's QB was listed as a freshman. Is that correct? He impressed the Shanley crowd - as well as the whole Grafton team. Grafton had over 30 players listed in the program but dressed about 18 with three players that looked injured?? Would have been fun to see how good Grafton would have been if not for all the injuries.

i had some friends from grafton that were at the game. they said that the Shanley school had printed out rosters from two years ago. i dont know how or from who they got their info. i had noticed it on the wdaz news broadcast. two of the recievers that they claimed caught td passes had graduated two years ago. thats why hanson was listed as a freshman. they dont have that many kids injured. maybe two or three. they are key players on a line that is pretty thin.
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Re: Week 9

Postby ndlionsfan » Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:29 pm

Hinsa wrote:Running time is only in the second half.

That being said, I don't think the officiating crews understand running time. It seems like every crew administers it differently. Some stop the clock at a first down. Some stop it after a change of possession. Some stop it for a score. Some NEVER stop it. There is little consistency from crew to crew.


What is the correct rule? I always thought it was the clock runs continously and only stops for injuries or timeouts. I've seen some crews stop it after scores and change of possesions, too. One crew at a game this year stopped it for almost everything and it didn't make sense to me.
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Re: Week 9

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:13 am

St. Mary's beat Minot Ryan 10-6
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Re: Week 9

Postby heimer » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:01 am

The roster from Grafton's website is two years old. That being said, if you go there, I believe it clearly indicates it's 2008's roster, so there really is no excuse for someone that went there incorrectly identifying players. If Shanley printed them off, they should have seen it on their website as well.

Of course, Grafton probably should have taken better care of the page.
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Re: Week 9

Postby Hinsa » Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:49 pm

ndlionsfan wrote:
Hinsa wrote:Running time is only in the second half.

That being said, I don't think the officiating crews understand running time. It seems like every crew administers it differently. Some stop the clock at a first down. Some stop it after a change of possession. Some stop it for a score. Some NEVER stop it. There is little consistency from crew to crew.


What is the correct rule? I always thought it was the clock runs continously and only stops for injuries or timeouts. I've seen some crews stop it after scores and change of possesions, too. One crew at a game this year stopped it for almost everything and it didn't make sense to me.

I'd like to see the rule in black and white if someone has access to it.
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Re: Week 9

Postby heimer » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:23 pm

From www.ndhsaa.com/athletics/football/football_regulations (which I might add, was written incorrectly in the online .pdf resource guide for officials):

After the first half, whenever the point differential reaches 30 or more, the clock will continue running when...

A. The ball goes out of bounds.

B. A forward pass is incomplete.

C. After a touchdown and during the try (unless it reduces the lead to less than 30 points).

The clock will be stopped on all other situations as specified in rule 3-4-4. Review official's timeouts 3-5-7.

Note: The use of this rule does not preclude rule 3-1-3, which reads: "A period or periods may be shortened in any emergency by agreement by opposing coaches and the referee. By mutual agreement of the opposing coaches and the referee, any remaining period may be shortened at any time or the game terminated."

I can handle the change of possession stoppages, in this situation. The one that really seems out of place is continuing to stop the clock for the marking of chains on a first down. Granted, it may be only a 10 second deal on a larger than normal gain, but string five first downs together on a drive, and you've added a minute that should have been running. Doesn't seem like the amount of "mercy" intended by the rule.
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Re: Week 9

Postby CapnCrunch » Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:17 pm

Run4Fun2009 wrote:St. Mary's beat Minot Ryan 10-6

Is ths legit??
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