AA - Week # 8 Schedule

The teams in Class AA.

Postby ND Football Guy » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:43 am

Friday, October 12

Bowman County - 20, at Beulah - 38

Dickinson Trinity - 59, at New Town - 0

Fargo Oak Grove - 35, at Carrington - 0

Grafton - 36, at Bottineau - 0

Hazen - 48, at Standing Rock - 8

Minot Bishop Ryan - 12, at Watford City - 9

Rugby - 6, at Devils Lake - 35

Valley City - 33, at Central Cass - 20
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Postby magic715 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:38 am

ND Football Guy wrote:Friday, October 12

Bowman County at Beulah

Dickinson Trinity at New Town

Fargo Oak Grove at Carrington

Grafton at Bottineau

Hazen at Standing Rock

Minot Bishop Ryan at Watford City

Rugby at Devils Lake

Valley City at Central Cass

winners, Beulah, Trinity, Oak Grove, Grafton, Hazen, Ryan, Rugby, Valley City
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Postby DeuceTrey » Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:16 pm

ND Football Guy wrote:Friday, October 12

Bowman County at Beulah

Dickinson Trinity at New Town

Fargo Oak Grove at Carrington

Grafton at Bottineau

Hazen at Standing Rock

Minot Bishop Ryan at Watford City

Rugby at Devils Lake

Valley City at Central Cass


Beulah, Trinity, Oak Grove, Grafton, Hazen, Watford in an upset, DL, Central Cass

already heard rumors that if the weather is decent that DL might have to bring in extra seating for their game against Rugby. that should defiantly be a great game.
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Postby propel23 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:32 pm

the bishop ryan wc game is huge because if ryan wins they get the number one seed and wc gets the number 3 and if watford wins they get the 2 seed and ryan drops all the way down to the #3 seed
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Postby click clack moo » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:38 pm

[user=1074]propel23[/user] wrote:
the bishop ryan wc game is huge because if ryan wins they get the number one seed and wc gets the number 3 and if watford wins they get the 2 seed and ryan drops all the way down to the #3 seed
then whp would get the one seed?
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Postby propel23 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:43 pm

click clack moo wrote:[user=1074]propel23[/user] wrote:
the bishop ryan wc game is huge because if ryan wins they get the number one seed and wc gets the number 3 and if watford wins they get the 2 seed and ryan drops all the way down to the #3 seed
then whp would get the one seed?


hazen....
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Postby click clack moo » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:50 pm

[user=1074]propel23[/user] wrote:
click clack moo wrote:[user=1074]propel23[/user] wrote:
the bishop ryan wc game is huge because if ryan wins they get the number one seed and wc gets the number 3 and if watford wins they get the 2 seed and ryan drops all the way down to the #3 seed
then whp would get the one seed?


hazen....
i dont get that because ryan beat hazen head to head and by a priddy high score
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Postby mike thingstad » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:51 pm

How would Ryan drop to third and Hazen to first? they all would have one loss and it would go to a tie breaker on point spread then back to head to head.
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Postby propel23 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:54 pm

because hazen beet wc 41-14 or something around that and ryan only beat hazen 22-0 so hazen would have the point differential....this is just what i was told
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Postby mike thingstad » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:37 pm

That leaves hazen at +5 for both games
Ryan at +22
WC - 27
WC would have to beat ryan by 25 to move ahead of them and Hazen would be one
but WC could beat Ryan by 17 and Ryan and Hazen would be tied and by 16 or less Ryan would be still be one.
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Postby propel23 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:36 pm

yea maybe the person who told me this was wrong but i guess it depends what the score is friday for the seeding
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Postby magic715 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:40 pm

mike thingstad wrote:That leaves hazen at +5 for both games
Ryan at +22
WC - 27
WC would have to beat ryan by 25 to move ahead of them and Hazen would be one
but WC could beat Ryan by 17 and Ryan and Hazen would be tied and by 16 or less Ryan would be still be one.

Mike, just wondering i know it doesnt make a difference in this situation, but is there a max points to get, so people dont try to run up like a 50-0 game. i know this probably wouldnt happen with good teams , but just wondering if there is like a 30 or 40 pt max?
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Postby Tide04 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:53 pm

Max amount of points is 17.  Unless Watord City beats Ryan by 17 or more, the order in the standings wouldn't change. 
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Postby mags » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:09 am

so point system aside who do u guys got to win?
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Postby scruffy » Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:38 pm

Relax....Watford won't beat Ryan.  The West will be in this order..Ryan, Hazen, Watford  and Trinity...
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Postby Dareybuck » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:54 pm

wow there seems to be a lot of question marks in the west.  in the east all that has to happen is the teams that are suppose to win would win and the brackets wouldnt be to messed up.
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Postby Wildcat » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:50 am

Watford City has to beat Bishop Ryan by at least 17 points to attempt to take the crown away from Minot Ryan. There is a 17-point minimum and maximum.

If that happens it will look like this: WC - 17 point win over Ryan, 41-14 loss to Hazen. Hazen - 41-14 win against WC, but 22-0 loss to Ryan. MR - 17 point loss to WC, 22-0 win against Hazen.

If Watford wins by 17, then every team will be at plus/minus 0. Unless the West Region has an optional tiebreaker that I don't know of, NDHSAA rules state that the No. 1 seed is drawn out of a hat. So Ryan could still draw the No. 1 seed. After the No. 1 seed is drawn, it goes back to head-to-head for the final two teams. If this works out, then anyone of the teams can finish anywhere in the Nos. 1-3.

If Ryan wins, or loses by less than 16, than they would still be the No. 1 seed, followed by Hazen then WC.

Of course, this is all assuming that in the final week of the season, Hazen beats Beulah in the Coal Bowl, Ryan beats New Town and Watford City beats Bowman County.

 
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Postby magic715 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:43 pm

Wildcat wrote:Watford City has to beat Bishop Ryan by at least 17 points to attempt to take the crown away from Minot Ryan. There is a 17-point minimum and maximum.

If that happens it will look like this: WC - 17 point win over Ryan, 41-14 loss to Hazen. Hazen - 41-14 win against WC, but 22-0 loss to Ryan. MR - 17 point loss to WC, 22-0 win against Hazen.

If Watford wins by 17, then every team will be at plus/minus 0. Unless the West Region has an optional tiebreaker that I don't know of, NDHSAA rules state that the No. 1 seed is drawn out of a hat. So Ryan could still draw the No. 1 seed. After the No. 1 seed is drawn, it goes back to head-to-head for the final two teams. If this works out, then anyone of the teams can finish anywhere in the Nos. 1-3.

If Ryan wins, or loses by less than 16, than they would still be the No. 1 seed, followed by Hazen then WC.

Of course, this is all assuming that in the final week of the season, Hazen beats Beulah in the Coal Bowl, Ryan beats New Town and Watford City beats Bowman County.

 

how would Ryan be 0 if they won by 22, but lose by 17? huh? i dont get it.  watford is -27 right now and Hazen is plus 5 , Hazen number cant change. so i dont get how watford gets a tie if they win by 17 when they are minus 27 now. if they win by 17 Ryan and Hazen would tie is how i  look at it. i think if i figure right that watford woudl have to win by 32 to out right win. Am i wrong or am i right?
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Postby power-aid14 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:06 pm

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Postby Wildcat » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:27 pm

magic715 wrote:
Wildcat wrote:Watford City has to beat Bishop Ryan by at least 17 points to attempt to take the crown away from Minot Ryan. There is a 17-point minimum and maximum.

If that happens it will look like this: WC - 17 point win over Ryan, 41-14 loss to Hazen. Hazen - 41-14 win against WC, but 22-0 loss to Ryan. MR - 17 point loss to WC, 22-0 win against Hazen.

If Watford wins by 17, then every team will be at plus/minus 0. Unless the West Region has an optional tiebreaker that I don't know of, NDHSAA rules state that the No. 1 seed is drawn out of a hat. So Ryan could still draw the No. 1 seed. After the No. 1 seed is drawn, it goes back to head-to-head for the final two teams. If this works out, then anyone of the teams can finish anywhere in the Nos. 1-3.

If Ryan wins, or loses by less than 16, than they would still be the No. 1 seed, followed by Hazen then WC.

Of course, this is all assuming that in the final week of the season, Hazen beats Beulah in the Coal Bowl, Ryan beats New Town and Watford City beats Bowman County.

 

how would Ryan be 0 if they won by 22, but lose by 17? huh? i dont get it.  watford is -27 right now and Hazen is plus 5 , Hazen number cant change. so i dont get how watford gets a tie if they win by 17 when they are minus 27 now. if they win by 17 Ryan and Hazen would tie is how i  look at it. i think if i figure right that watford woudl have to win by 32 to out right win. Am i wrong or am i right?


I explained it once, so please pay attention!

THERE IS A 17-POINT MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM.

It doesn't matter if Hazen beats Watford City 210 to negative 5.

In tiebreaking formulas, Hazen only gets plus 17 points and Watford City is only minus 17 points.

Example 1: Hazen wins 20-4 (two safeties). Hazen has plus sixteen, Watford is minus 16.
Example 2: Hazen wins 18-0, Hazen only gets 17 points in the tiebreaker formula and WC is only down 17.

It's to prevent teams from having an excuse to run up the score on weaker teams.
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Postby ND Football Guy » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:44 pm

Friday, October 12

Bowman County - 20, at Beulah - 38

Dickinson Trinity - 59, at New Town - 0

Fargo Oak Grove - 35, at Carrington - 0

Grafton - 36, at Bottineau - 0

Hazen - 48, at Standing Rock - 8

Minot Bishop Ryan - 12, at Watford City - 9

Rugby - 6, at Devils Lake - 35

Valley City - 33, at Central Cass - 20
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Postby PigskinQuad » Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:12 pm

scruffy wrote:Relax....Watford won't beat Ryan.  The West will be in this order..Ryan, Hazen, Watford  and Trinity...

close game watford only lost by 3...
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Postby scruffy » Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:59 am

Like I said..RELAX...Ryan will win...
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Postby tripleb » Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:16 am

Watford was leading at the half 3-0.  Then they turned the ball over on fumbles three of their first 4 plays of the 3rd quarter deep in their own territory.  Watford's defense was great.
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Postby power-aid14 » Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:31 am

tripleb wrote:Watford was leading at the half 3-0.  Then they turned the ball over on fumbles three of their first 4 plays of the 3rd quarter deep in their own territory.  Watford's defense was great.

watford pretty much challenged bishop ryan to pass the ball. Bishop Ryan pretty much decided they didnt care if watford stacked 10 guys in the box they were stilll gonna run. it just looked like watford's defense was worn down on bishop ryan's last drive and could get any key stops. I dont think it was either team's best game but it was a good one to watch. Watford's crowd was great
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