11A Week 9 Schedule

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11A Week 9 Schedule

Postby Sorenson23 » Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:42 am

End of Regular Season

Thursday October 20th
(3) Jamestown def (5) Fargo North 49-21
(1) Grand Forks Red River def Dickinson 49-0
Watford City def West Fargo Horace 21-19

Friday October 21st
(RV) Grand Forks Central def Devils Lake 49-28
(4) Fargo South def (2) Valley City 7-3
Wahpeton def Turtle Mountain 68-20
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Re: 11A Week 9 Schedule

Postby justplayalready » Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:24 am

two big games today to try and get playoff picture and seeds straight...

Really not sure who is best team...matchup dependent lol
Id seed
GFRR
VC( if win today)
JTown
FS
FN
Whap
dude
DL GFC winner

Not sure what a FS win does today...Jamestown to #2 FS #3, or visa-versa???
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Re: 11A Week 9 Schedule

Postby WalkingStick » Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:03 am

knowing how the QRF works; if VC wins they'll be #1; Jamestown beat GFRR so I would think Jamestown to 2, GFRR 3 and South 4 under VC winning scenario.
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Re: 11A Week 9 Schedule

Postby justplayalready » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:07 am

now what? A secret Govt Supercomputer spits out a seeding and go play?
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Re: 11A Week 9 Schedule

Postby ChickenNuggets » Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:23 am

NDHSAA Website lists the bracket as follows:

#1 South vs. #8 Dickinson
#4 Valley City vs. #5 North

#2 Jamestown vs. #7 GF Central
#3 GF Red river vs. #6 Wahpeton

On the ND Scores website that lists the QRF there is this explanation as well:

Here is the process approved by the NDHSAA Board of Directors:

After final regular season games are done - the (Q)uality (R)esults (F)ormula calculates a QRF Value for every team
A "Tiebreaker Margin" of 10% of the Average QRF Value in a Class is created (11AA = 8.0, 11A = 5.6)
Starting with the Team with the highest QRF Value (slot 1), we compare to the Team with the next highest QRF value (slot 2).
If the team in slot 2 has either the same/better overall record OR is within the Tiebreaker Margin, they can challenge for the slot above them and switch spots with a Head to Head win. If teams did not play or do not meet the requirements for a challenge, the Higher QRF Value wins.
After the winner of this challenge is determined teams will either stay in their slot or switch slots and we move on down the list and repeat the process until no more challenges are possible.

Using this procedure, it is possible for a team to move up multiple slots and earn a higher seed based on the Head to Head wins.

*The "Seeding" menu at the top refers to how Minnesota does it - please ignore as we work to get the programming for the North Dakota side better on our end.


Here was the final QRF standings:

Rank Team / Record QRF
1 Fargo South (6-3) 87.2
2 Grand Forks Red River (7-2) 86.4
3 Jamestown (7-2) 85.6
4 Valley City (7-2) 82.5
5 Fargo North (5-4) 67.6
6 Wahpeton (5-4) 65.2
7 Grand Forks Central (4-5) 56.3
8 Dickinson (4-5) 48.0
9 Devils Lake (3-6) 36.6
10 Watford City (2-7) 25.9
11 Turtle Mountain (1-8) 19.2
12 West Fargo Horace (0-9) 16.9

Based on this it appears Jamestown jumping Red River was the only challenge
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Re: 11A Week 9 Schedule

Postby WalkingStick » Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:36 pm

justplayalready wrote:now what? A secret Govt Supercomputer spits out a seeding and go play?


It's really not as secret as everyone thinks it is...the exact numbers used, yes, but the concept and how it works is pretty clear. Now that the state knew about the TB margin it's more in the open...kinda shocked the NDHSAA held that part secret...but I assumed that if MN used it that ND would use it (which basically gives H2H advantages)
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