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the_truth_hurts wrote:I saw evanson let in 7 goals on 27 shots......so overrated
Saucesauer wrote:the_truth_hurts wrote:I saw evanson let in 7 goals on 27 shots......so overrated
Finally someone else sees that...
powerranger wrote:Saucesauer wrote:the_truth_hurts wrote:I saw evanson let in 7 goals on 27 shots......so overrated
Finally someone else sees that...
very true. what are your thoughts on the game?
Leprekan317 wrote:Williston was not good defensively last night, they allowed Century to break out at will, over pursuing the puck in both zones. Century looked good. Very quick team, but I think they could be beat if they get hit hard early in the game to slow them down. Evanson looked shaky at best, I think he has flashes, but gets into his own head way too easily, let in at least 3 soft goals. Dickerson also looked shaky, expected much more out of him, but Nelson is consistenly the best skater on the ice, I haven't seen a kid in ND that stands out that far in a while. Should be an interesting pick between him and Laduceur for Mr. Hockey.
willistonwho wrote:really - in the WDA?? Who?
the_truth_hurts wrote:willistonwho wrote:really - in the WDA?? Who?
where to begin....um ill start with bryce schmitt, caleb haugen, Erick Paiment, Andrew Seeberg, Ross Monson, Jordan Willert, Tyler Jundt, Nick Romanick i could go on but ill stop................hes a good player but dont start saying hes the best the west has seen in a long time.....this years west region is weak and everybody knows it so he should be piling up points.
hockeyplaya wrote:the_truth_hurts wrote:willistonwho wrote:really - in the WDA?? Who?
where to begin....um ill start with bryce schmitt, caleb haugen, Erick Paiment, Andrew Seeberg, Ross Monson, Jordan Willert, Tyler Jundt, Nick Romanick i could go on but ill stop................hes a good player but dont start saying hes the best the west has seen in a long time.....this years west region is weak and everybody knows it so he should be piling up points.
the_truth_hurts you have been hating on nelson for... I don't know how many years. I really do believe you are jealous, being from minot and all, it makes sense. I WILL argue with you on this. Nelson controls the game, and is a better player than most of the people mentioned. Don't believe me? I'll prove it. I have watched every single player that you have mentioned above. Caleb Haugen...get real Nelson had 3 less points than him when nelson was a soph. and haugen a sr. Nelson controlled the game better than Haugen did as a jr...Paiment was a good player but not the caliber player that nelson is by any means. Paiment-31 pts. as a sr. Nelson that same year as a jr.-48pts. I watched both times they played Jamestown that year. Wasn't even funny. Also Seeburg was a really good player. Hard worker, hard hitter, but again did NOT control the gameplay like nelson does when he is on the ice. Seeburgs sr. year he had 41 pts. a year later nelson again as a jr. 48 pts. this year nelson has 58 pts after regular season play. topping almost everyone you have mentioned. And did I seriously hear Nick Romanick? coming in at a whopping 17 points last year? I don't care if he was D, Jundt had way more points than that. I have watched Jundt many times. He is a very skilled player, I do not doubt that at all. However, I have watched his senior year along with high school career along with Nelsons I can honestly say that Nelson is a more consistent player than Jundt. I am not putting Jundt down by any means, but I have seen mental breakdowns and errors from Jundt that I just have not seen from Nelson. On to Willert...Willert was a very good player however the biggest mistake of his career was going on to the next level too soon like he did. He should have stayed one more year at minot won mr. hockey and would probably had more offers and more things going for him. Now for Schmitt. Nelson has played with Schmitt on various teams as well as playing against each other. Going by pts (which I know is NOT the best) but Nelson did have just 1 more pt than Schmitt did both his soph. and jr. season. I believe Schmitt and Nelson were always neck and neck with each other. Monson was probably your best pick out of these candidates. Monson was skilled and controlled alot of aspects of the game like Nelson does right now. It would be interesting to see them play each other given that Monson is what? 3-4 years older than Nelson? I did base some of my arguments on points but just to show that Nelson had almost everyone topped while still being a year or two younger (in some cases) than the people you mentioned. My advice the_truth_hurts is stop hating on Nelson and stop being a jealous while posting on this site. I have watched you play also and there is nothing to back up anything you say on here.
the_truth_hurts wrote:lmao....this is thee most ridiculous post i have ever seen........ill start from the beggining......I honestly dont think I have EVER posted about jordan nelson before in my life, i think hes a very good player and seems like a nice guy, i just didnt like your post proclaiming him the best player in the STATE in recent years. I love how points mean everything about a player to you, thats how i know you have no real knowledge of the game. Are west players with more points than east players necessarily better than the east players? No Way. Romanick.....hes the same age as Nelson right? wheres he playing? oh last time i checked he was playing for the fargo force in the USHL. Willert and Jundt are playing D1 correct? Your obviously from williston so you should be giving Jundt way more credit. As for Paiment did you see his team last year?? 31 points on that team is amazing.....i think second on his team was like 10.....that kid was maybe the hardest player i ever played against. "hockeyplaya" I think you are confused. I am not from minot.....I dont know where you got that from.....I am from MANDAN and I normally post about MANDAN so you must not read my posts at all. My name is Patrick Bair I graduated from mandan high in 2008. Judge how I played however you want. I don't post on this site to talk about myself or to put down any individual players I just thought your opinion was way off. I played against all the players I mentioned in my previous list and think I have a pretty good grasp of the skill level of these players. If points mean everything to you why dont you look back to 2005 when mandan alums Charlie Bair and Danny Montplaisir put up 72 pts and 60+ pts respectively. I didn't mention them before because thats not why I'm on this site and thats not what I'm about. Now I have one more question for you.....who are you?
hockeyplaya wrote:the_truth_hurts wrote:lmao....this is thee most ridiculous post i have ever seen........ill start from the beggining......I honestly dont think I have EVER posted about jordan nelson before in my life, i think hes a very good player and seems like a nice guy, i just didnt like your post proclaiming him the best player in the STATE in recent years. I love how points mean everything about a player to you, thats how i know you have no real knowledge of the game. Are west players with more points than east players necessarily better than the east players? No Way. Romanick.....hes the same age as Nelson right? wheres he playing? oh last time i checked he was playing for the fargo force in the USHL. Willert and Jundt are playing D1 correct? Your obviously from williston so you should be giving Jundt way more credit. As for Paiment did you see his team last year?? 31 points on that team is amazing.....i think second on his team was like 10.....that kid was maybe the hardest player i ever played against. "hockeyplaya" I think you are confused. I am not from minot.....I dont know where you got that from.....I am from MANDAN and I normally post about MANDAN so you must not read my posts at all. My name is Patrick Bair I graduated from mandan high in 2008. Judge how I played however you want. I don't post on this site to talk about myself or to put down any individual players I just thought your opinion was way off. I played against all the players I mentioned in my previous list and think I have a pretty good grasp of the skill level of these players. If points mean everything to you why dont you look back to 2005 when mandan alums Charlie Bair and Danny Montplaisir put up 72 pts and 60+ pts respectively. I didn't mention them before because thats not why I'm on this site and thats not what I'm about. Now I have one more question for you.....who are you?
You have to be crazy to think that you have never posted about Nelson before. Last year I saw multiple posts you made about Nelson. Do not say that you have never posted about Nelson. Sorry I did mix up the cities however. Tell me how did you play agaisnt Monson when you graduated in 08? you said you played against everyone you mentioned above, maybe you watched him play. I do give Jundt credit he is a very good player, I am however saying that he had some defensive mistakes where he got beat when he played HIGH SCHOOL I'm not talking about him playing D1 at the moment. As for Willert I havent heard a thing about him I don't think he is doing that great last time I heard he was playing for tri-city. As for Nelson being the best player in the state...why did you post every single person from the wda? oh yeah we were talking about wda not state. I'll quote willistonwho "really - in the WDA?? Who?". I agree with Scaucesauer. Everyone looks at points...I don't care what you say. It is sad, I know, but scouts look at the people with the most points, then decide to look at the player, call the coach, etc. They do not go down the list at say #34 in scoring and think hmm this guy might be a very hard worker...At least this isn't how North Dakota hockey works. Even to make All-West Region pts are what matter. I will agree that Bair was a very good player and I think that he made Montplaisir better, I dont think Montplaisir was the calibur player Bair was but had points because of Bair. Just like that soph., I think he is, on Ladoucers line on RR. I also think Herbel was very good, but the defensive aspect of his game was no where to be found. Back to the points they do NOT mean everything to me, it is everyone else they matter too. Again it does not say in the papers or anywhere else George had 2 goals and 2 assists this game, but Alex here skated his hardest and did not get any goals or assists. Last thing, I do think Nelson is up there with the best players in the state from the past years. Disagree with me if you want, but if I recall correctly Nelson made it all the way to the USA hockey development camp in Rochester, NY. Huge accomplishment in my books. He was picked as the best forward out of 2 or 3 states if I remember it right.
yellowsquash wrote:Wow get real, last 5 years? I guess Erik Herbel was bad, what about Rehak from willy? Charlie Bair and Danny Montplaisir. Although they were 6 years ago Alan Jecort, Brandon Mayer and Dave Mickalson from CHS. You say how points don't mean anything and yet every player is based on points. Look at surronding cast if you want to go by points Paimant had nothing to work with and was the main focus of every team they played, same goes with Herbel. Connel from BHS controlled the game better than Monson if you are going by game control. Sam Aide, Jared Kopp, and Alec Kautzman all from BHS and I believe all went on to help MSU-Bott. win 1 or 2 national titles. And than go onto talent level, can you honestly say that the west has been even average the last 2-3 years? How many of his 55 points came aginst the lower 4 in the WDA Willy has 48 goals compared to 25 aginst top 4 teams and than 13 aginst usually lower level canadian teams. Nelson is a good player but I would like to know how many points he got from each scenario if possiable?
Thank you very much saucesauer.
Its about time that someone mentions jechort, shulte, mickelson, DALLAS BOSSART ( played with sydney crosby i do believe at Shattuck ), ross monson, charlie bair, justin connel, sam aide.
Saucesauer wrote:yellowsquash wrote:Wow get real, last 5 years? I guess Erik Herbel was bad, what about Rehak from willy? Charlie Bair and Danny Montplaisir. Although they were 6 years ago Alan Jecort, Brandon Mayer and Dave Mickalson from CHS. You say how points don't mean anything and yet every player is based on points. Look at surronding cast if you want to go by points Paimant had nothing to work with and was the main focus of every team they played, same goes with Herbel. Connel from BHS controlled the game better than Monson if you are going by game control. Sam Aide, Jared Kopp, and Alec Kautzman all from BHS and I believe all went on to help MSU-Bott. win 1 or 2 national titles. And than go onto talent level, can you honestly say that the west has been even average the last 2-3 years? How many of his 55 points came aginst the lower 4 in the WDA Willy has 48 goals compared to 25 aginst top 4 teams and than 13 aginst usually lower level canadian teams. Nelson is a good player but I would like to know how many points he got from each scenario if possiable?
Thank you very much saucesauer.
Its about time that someone mentions jechort, shulte, mickelson, DALLAS BOSSART ( played with sydney crosby i do believe at Shattuck ), ross monson, charlie bair, justin connel, sam aide.
I forgot about Bossart, Wow I am almost willing to say he IS THE BEST player to come out of this state, but the entire Lamerioux family and Marto may have somthing to say about it.
goteam11 wrote:Saucesauer wrote:yellowsquash wrote:Wow get real, last 5 years? I guess Erik Herbel was bad, what about Rehak from willy? Charlie Bair and Danny Montplaisir. Although they were 6 years ago Alan Jecort, Brandon Mayer and Dave Mickalson from CHS. You say how points don't mean anything and yet every player is based on points. Look at surronding cast if you want to go by points Paimant had nothing to work with and was the main focus of every team they played, same goes with Herbel. Connel from BHS controlled the game better than Monson if you are going by game control. Sam Aide, Jared Kopp, and Alec Kautzman all from BHS and I believe all went on to help MSU-Bott. win 1 or 2 national titles. And than go onto talent level, can you honestly say that the west has been even average the last 2-3 years? How many of his 55 points came aginst the lower 4 in the WDA Willy has 48 goals compared to 25 aginst top 4 teams and than 13 aginst usually lower level canadian teams. Nelson is a good player but I would like to know how many points he got from each scenario if possiable?
Thank you very much saucesauer.
Its about time that someone mentions jechort, shulte, mickelson, DALLAS BOSSART ( played with sydney crosby i do believe at Shattuck ), ross monson, charlie bair, justin connel, sam aide.
I forgot about Bossart, Wow I am almost willing to say he IS THE BEST player to come out of this state, but the entire Lamerioux family and Marto may have somthing to say about it.
throw Mike Peluso in there to maybe?