Haven't posted here in a bit, incoming long post.
toews19 wrote:as to your comment about orson not having a standout player on his line...werent you saying all year that he was playing on the best line in the state and they were all such a talented group of guys?
No, I said he had the most experienced line, not the most talented. However, I think I also said that earlier in the year when he was on a line with two seniors, I think (can't remember for sure) he got switched with different line mates at the latter half of the year.
plus all these offensive defensman south had, thats gonna help put up points for a forward also. red river didnt have as many offensive defensman as south did. so dont start saying BS like ladouceur had crary and orson had no one. they both had players to play with.
Offensive defensemen are terrible points. I'd much rather have a single standout forward partner than two of the best offensive defensemen in the state on my line. The only way offensive defensemen generate a large amount of points for the forwards (this is, other than the defenseman himself) is by tips/rebounds and that requires you to pretty much camp out in front of the net. The fact is, scoring from the point is rare and most of the time it's pretty lucky. A goalie should make nearly all those saves especially without a screen/tip. Whereas Orson's linemates had 38 and 28 points to his 52. 4 of South's top 9 players in points were defensemen, and refer to my previous point as to why that matters. Ladoucer and Crary had 59/57 respectfully. When they didn't score a goal, they are assisting on 50% of the goals other players on the team had. Both of these players had a ridiculously high number of assists too, with Ladouceur having 11 more assists than the nearest player in the entire state in assists, and Crary with 7 more. I'm assuming Bancroft/Johnson switched off at some point during the year, but that line had 70% of their points nearly. What I'm getting at is, Orson pretty much did it on his own comparatively. Not saying Ladouceur won't get a lot of points next year, I'm sure he will. But that's a forwards job.
and dont quote me on this but i heard there is no mr. hockey next year? has anyone else heard that?
Last I heard there still will be, it's just between one east and one west player.
14>35 wrote:and there is no need to generalize the state of north dakota saying the majority would vote for ladeucer this year for mr. hockey. its not the "mr. who scored the most points this year" award.
People mistake it for this. However, it's actually just a simple vote by coaches and it really doesn't mean as much to the coaches as it does to the kids in most cases. It's pretty much whomever gets the most representation that morning. The 1 west 1 east candidate should make further voting a little better, however.
as long as malm is behind the bench ill never rule red river out but talent-wise they are not the strongest
They won in 07 with probably the best team, lost in 08 with far superior team and won in 09 with an inferior team. I don't know if it's Malm or the puck, but they find a way. I know the GFRR kids will continue to post how it's tradition and how much better they are than the rest of the state, but give it a rest. Maybe I should go get Bloomington Jefferson that manhandled them to post here, and they didn't make state in Minnesota. Have some respect for other teams when you post or don't post at all. (Not directed at you 14>35, to the others bragging themselves/teamates up)
dillseeds wrote:Ladouceur will be Mr. Hockey next year with out a doubt regardless of linemates, and Chris Waind will be such a huge and powerful force that he'll be tested for steriods and other performance enhacing drugs on a daily basis.
How do you expect me not to call you arrogant and ignorant when you make claims like these? Please go look up the definitions of the terms before you knee-jerk react to someone possibly judging you. Chris Waind is no Aaron Ness or Tyler Pitlick and although I'm sure he will do well I doubt he'll have the impact you describe. Same goes for LaDouceur and the same goes for Orson. Players can have a big impact, but I don't see any of these players scoring at will like standouts from years past. However, they're all young and offseason training and determination can go a long ways at this age.
P4KNBD wrote:red river only returned on defense men last year and they won it again...
They lost in 08. Saying 'again' is saying it like they back-to-backed, which they didn't. Saying that, they won a year where they had less experience and skill, that either says the state was down or they pulled through when they normally shouldn't have. (See Moorhead)
Go Sioux wrote:P4KNBD wrote:red river only returned on defense men last year and they won it again...
good point. They easily could win it next year.
Just like they 'easily' won it this year. I guarantee you ask that tea- yourself if you were going to take it all after that Central game in EDC you would have been pretty far fetched on how to respond.
14>35 wrote:yes congratulations your school won the championship is it mandatory for you to restate that in every one of your posts? i would like to see one red river fan/player accept victory with humility (that would be a first) because im sure you had a lot to do with their victory from sitting in the stands.
Go easy on them, tiger. They become defensive when they're criticized and they need to reinforce themselves.
Anywho, ever school does it when they win. If South had won it this year, I guarantee there would be a group of South kids talking themselves up on how easy it was to walk through the state this year. Central, same thing. Bismarck, oh baby that would've shook up this board real good, and it would've happened if Bismarck could've kept their heads for one more game. It's disrespectful but it's competition and it'll always be on these and all boards, especially when people have the feeling they're anonymous (even when they're not (emails and IP addresses, hint hint). Some people don't realize after they won how improbable it really was. Take a look at it with pride, but not like you're the best thing since the invention of the wheel.