Winningest HS football programs

Postby atalltexan » Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:15 pm

I maintain a national database of winningest HS football programs.  You'll find the top 800+ at this link:  http://texashsfootball.com/board/index.php?s=045a129af02c73a9bbb87cd1757a2c8c&showtopic=4549

Need input on North Dakota schools.  Have only come across numbers so far on the following:

-Grand Forks Ctrl---429-333-34

-Cavalier-----------357-181-7

-Stanley-----------320-241-10

Can anyone assist further with other schools ?
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Postby ndfan » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:03 pm

I'd be interested to see Fargo South, Fargo Shanley, Velva, and Watford City when it comes to most wins. I would think Shanley has the most wins with Watford City a close second. I could be wrong.
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Postby atalltexan » Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:40 pm

ndfan wrote:I'd be interested to see Fargo South, Fargo Shanley, Velva, and Watford City when it comes to most wins. I would think Shanley has the most wins with Watford City a close second. I could be wrong.

ndfan, I have partials on each of those, but have posted only the schools I could come up with all-time figures on.  Hoping to catch some posters on the board with connections to some of the schools and their all-time results.
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Postby MinotBison » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:52 pm

Atalltexan, help me out with something.  What are the enrollment divisions for the various classes of Texas FB?

The last  I heard, 2500 and above was 5A, 1500-2500 was 4A, and I'm not sure after that.  I had a brother in law who is an official in the Houston area.  One year, we went to the state 4A championship game in the Astrodome.  I think it was College Station against A&M Consolidated.

 
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Postby atalltexan » Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:37 am

MinotBison wrote:Atalltexan, help me out with something.  What are the enrollment divisions for the various classes of Texas FB?

The last  I heard, 2500 and above was 5A, 1500-2500 was 4A, and I'm not sure after that.  I had a brother in law who is an official in the Houston area.  One year, we went to the state 4A championship game in the Astrodome.  I think it was College Station against A&M Consolidated.
Minot, I don't have the complete list breaking out each segment.  Surprisingly, the State doesn't show it on their site.  The attached link shows all the 5A teams in the State with their enrollments.  Their a couple in Laredo with 1500+, and one in the 1700 area, but I think they received exceptions based on their location.   I believe the official cutoff is around 1900 to go to the top bracket.
 
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Postby MinotBison » Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:03 am

atalltexan wrote:
MinotBison wrote:Atalltexan, help me out with something.  What are the enrollment divisions for the various classes of Texas FB?

The last  I heard, 2500 and above was 5A, 1500-2500 was 4A, and I'm not sure after that.  I had a brother in law who is an official in the Houston area.  One year, we went to the state 4A championship game in the Astrodome.  I think it was College Station against A&M Consolidated.
Minot, I don't have the complete list breaking out each segment.  Surprisingly, the State doesn't show it on their site.  The attached link shows all the 5A teams in the State with their enrollments.  Their a couple in Laredo with 1500+, and one in the 1700 area, but I think they received exceptions based on their location.   I believe the official cutoff is around 1900 to go to the top bracket.
Is North Shore good again this year?  Or is it one of those things where they are always good?
 

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Postby atalltexan » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:25 am

MinotBison wrote:
atalltexan wrote:
MinotBison wrote:Atalltexan, help me out with something.  What are the enrollment divisions for the various classes of Texas FB?

The last  I heard, 2500 and above was 5A, 1500-2500 was 4A, and I'm not sure after that.  I had a brother in law who is an official in the Houston area.  One year, we went to the state 4A championship game in the Astrodome.  I think it was College Station against A&M Consolidated.
Minot, I don't have the complete list breaking out each segment.  Surprisingly, the State doesn't show it on their site.  The attached link shows all the 5A teams in the State with their enrollments.  Their a couple in Laredo with 1500+, and one in the 1700 area, but I think they received exceptions based on their location.   I believe the official cutoff is around 1900 to go to the top bracket.
Is North Shore good again this year?  Or is it one of those things where they are always good?
 




Here's link to preseason State rankings in 5A, the top class.  Northshore is right in there:

http://www.texashsfootball.com/previews06/districts/class5a/5atop40preseason.htm
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Postby atalltexan » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:21 am

atalltexan wrote:
MinotBison wrote:
atalltexan wrote:
MinotBison wrote:Atalltexan, help me out with something.  What are the enrollment divisions for the various classes of Texas FB?

The last  I heard, 2500 and above was 5A, 1500-2500 was 4A, and I'm not sure after that.  I had a brother in law who is an official in the Houston area.  One year, we went to the state 4A championship game in the Astrodome.  I think it was College Station against A&M Consolidated.
Minot, I don't have the complete list breaking out each segment.  Surprisingly, the State doesn't show it on their site.  The attached link shows all the 5A teams in the State with their enrollments.  Their a couple in Laredo with 1500+, and one in the 1700 area, but I think they received exceptions based on their location.   I believe the official cutoff is around 1900 to go to the top bracket.
Is North Shore good again this year?  Or is it one of those things where they are always good?
 




Here's link to preseason State rankings in 5A, the top class.  Northshore is right in there:

http://www.texashsfootball.com/previews06/districts/class5a/5atop40preseason.htm


Minot,

There are several national polls, but in the Tony Poll, NorthShore is ranked #25 in the nation:  http://www.tonybianco.com/high_school_football.htm
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Postby atalltexan » Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:54 am

MinotBison, do you have any connection to that school (Minot) and their all-time figures ?  Know anyone that would ?
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Postby MinotBison » Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:46 pm

atalltexan wrote:MinotBison, do you have any connection to that school (Minot) and their all-time figures ?  Know anyone that would ?


You could try someone in the sports department at the Minot Daily News, the local newspaper.  You could get ahold of a Michael Linnell., Sports Editor. His e-mail is:  [url=mailto:mlinnell@minotdailynews.com]mlinnell@minotdailynews.com[/url].  I don't know if he specifically would have that info, but he can probably point you in the right direction.  Hope that helps.  Will try and find another source if I can, and let you know.

 
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Postby atalltexan » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:03 pm

MinotBison wrote:
atalltexan wrote:MinotBison, do you have any connection to that school (Minot) and their all-time figures ?  Know anyone that would ?


You could try someone in the sports department at the Minot Daily News, the local newspaper.  You could get ahold of a Michael Linnell., Sports Editor. His e-mail is:  [url=mailto:mlinnell@minotdailynews.com]mlinnell@minotdailynews.com[/url].  I don't know if he specifically would have that info, but he can probably point you in the right direction.  Hope that helps.  Will try and find another source if I can, and let you know.

 

I have dropped him a note.  Thanks
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Postby atalltexan » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:11 pm

Here are some partial numbers that need rounding out by folks with numbers going further back:

-New England 293-75-3 (from 1964)

-Fargo South 274-90-4 (from 1969)

-Watford City 270-74-0 (from 1969)

-Fargo Shanley 249-77-3 (from 1948, but missing 1978-98)

-Bismark 231-99-0 (from 1974)

-Jamestown 192-108-0 (from 1976)

-Central Valley/Edmore 174-111-0 (from 1976)

-Washburn 154-115-0 (from 1976)

-Harvey 137-98-0 (from 1981)

Note that these are all thru 2004.

 
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Postby atalltexan » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:25 pm

atalltexan wrote:Here are some partial numbers that need rounding out by folks with numbers going further back:

-New England 293-75-3 (from 1964)

-Fargo South 274-90-4 (from 1969)

-Watford City 270-74-0 (from 1969)

-Fargo Shanley 249-77-3 (from 1948, but missing 1978-98)

-Bismark 231-99-0 (from 1974)

-Jamestown 192-108-0 (from 1976)

-Central Valley/Edmore 174-111-0 (from 1976)

-Washburn 154-115-0 (from 1976)

-Harvey 137-98-0 (from 1981)

Note that these are all thru 2004.

 


 

No one with more info on any of these programs ?
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Postby Ming01 » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:30 pm

Bismarck High has 501 wins I think, not sure on the losses though.
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Postby atalltexan » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:32 pm

Ming01 wrote:Bismarck High has 501 wins I think, not sure on the losses though.


 

Ming, need more details.  Where did you find that ?  Article, website, etc ?
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Postby Ming01 » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:34 pm

From an article, they got their 500th win against my team 2 weeks ago and won last week.
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Postby atalltexan » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:48 pm

Ming01 wrote:From an article, they got their 500th win against my team 2 weeks ago and won last week.

If anyone can find the link to the article, please post it.
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Postby atalltexan » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:55 pm

atalltexan wrote:
Ming01 wrote:From an article, they got their 500th win against my team 2 weeks ago and won last week.

If anyone can find the link to the article, please post it.

Found it.  Bismarck Tribune, 10/13 article.  Just a one line mention saying win was 500th according to local sports historian, Ray Maloney.  He contributes to paper from time to time.  I'll get in touch with them tommorrow, and see if I can't get more info.
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