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smart source wrote:

baseball wrote:

smart source wrote:

baseball wrote:Watch the Steele-Dawson girls play and tell me no teams play that type of defense because the shot clock doesnt allow them. granted this whole topic has been aobut boys but if a girls team can do it, i think a guys team can (trinity).

The B teams i mentioned average a combined 70.8 PPG. The A teams average 60.4 PPG in the adjusted 32 minutes. thats 79.6 to 67.9 in favor of class B is the 36 minute game. you also must be one of the guys who thinks if a team holds the ball for more then 25 seconds its stalling. said it before and ill say it again....stalling and patience are not the same thing....stalling is standing with the ball on your hip at the halfline for 40 seconds while the defense just sits back. passing the ball around the court for 40 seconds is not stalling, unless its a 4 corner passing, if it goes along the perimeter all within 25 feet of the hoop...thats patience and looking for a good shot. good teams dont stall, good teams are patient.

yea i can read i know the b teams you mentioned i know im saying every single solitary team in the state class a and class b if you found the average of both classes ppg...and your naming one 2 teams in the state if you had to guess do you think that the majority of class b teams run a zone or a man to man d meant to cause turnovers

most teams will run a man to man unless its an extended 1-3-1 or 1-2-2 where they can trap. Zones are mainly used when a team cant match up inside or prevent a team from getting to the rim and to make htem hit outside shots in order to beat you. if your going to try and force a turnover a 2-3 wouldnt be your best bet, man would be....ball pressure + denied passing lanes = turnovers

thanks coach k....i played basketball for a long time i know the purpose and thats not what i asked i said do you think in your own opinion that more team in class b run zone than teams that run a man pressure d

baseball wrote:

smart source wrote:

baseball wrote:

smart source wrote:

baseball wrote:Watch the Steele-Dawson girls play and tell me no teams play that type of defense because the shot clock doesnt allow them. granted this whole topic has been aobut boys but if a girls team can do it, i think a guys team can (trinity).

The B teams i mentioned average a combined 70.8 PPG. The A teams average 60.4 PPG in the adjusted 32 minutes. thats 79.6 to 67.9 in favor of class B is the 36 minute game. you also must be one of the guys who thinks if a team holds the ball for more then 25 seconds its stalling. said it before and ill say it again....stalling and patience are not the same thing....stalling is standing with the ball on your hip at the halfline for 40 seconds while the defense just sits back. passing the ball around the court for 40 seconds is not stalling, unless its a 4 corner passing, if it goes along the perimeter all within 25 feet of the hoop...thats patience and looking for a good shot. good teams dont stall, good teams are patient.

yea i can read i know the b teams you mentioned i know im saying every single solitary team in the state class a and class b if you found the average of both classes ppg...and your naming one 2 teams in the state if you had to guess do you think that the majority of class b teams run a zone or a man to man d meant to cause turnovers

most teams will run a man to man unless its an extended 1-3-1 or 1-2-2 where they can trap. Zones are mainly used when a team cant match up inside or prevent a team from getting to the rim and to make htem hit outside shots in order to beat you. if your going to try and force a turnover a 2-3 wouldnt be your best bet, man would be....ball pressure + denied passing lanes = turnovers

thanks coach k....i played basketball for a long time i know the purpose and thats not what i asked i said do you think in your own opinion that more team in class b run zone than teams that run a man pressure d

well basically anyone who knows anything about basketball would know the answer to that question so i thought maybe i had to explain since you asked
plus in the first sentence of my response i answered your question...."most teams will run a man to man unless its an extended 1-3-1 or 1-2-2 where they can trap"

baseball wrote:thats why i said most teams. for some teams a zone is a better defense (Syracuse), but man is the main one used for pressure. I never saw Westhope play at all so im just wondering what kinda zone it was, 2-3, 1-3-1, 1-2-2, 3-2....? and was it extended at all?

baseball wrote:thats true, zones are good if they are run right. but thats just it, not alot of teams konw how to run them right so man to man is just easier to say you go gaurd this guy, instead of saying you gaurd this spot. match up zones are effective though

cubsfan wrote:The thing that makes class b more exciting is the fans. The anticipation, the atmosphere, it is probably the best thing in ND.

NDSportsFan wrote:It's all relative. Talent level, Class A is better, passion and excitement - probably Class B.

smart source wrote:

NDSportsFan wrote:It's all relative. Talent level, Class A is better, passion and excitement - probably Class B.

what does passion have to do with class? i would say class a and class b players are care just as much you could actually make the argument class a would care more because class a players lets be honest they have a better shot at getting a scholarship....so are you gonna be more passionate thinking hey i can get my college payed for if i play well so they could care more you never know i dont neccessarily believe that but im just saying

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NDSportsFan wrote:It's all relative. Talent level, Class A is better, passion and excitement - probably Class B.

what does passion have to do with class? i would say class a and class b players are care just as much you could actually make the argument class a would care more because class a players lets be honest they have a better shot at getting a scholarship....so are you gonna be more passionate thinking hey i can get my college payed for if i play well so they could care more you never know i dont neccessarily believe that but im just saying

there it is again thinking Class A is better.....look at the college rosters lately. there are just as many B players on them as their are A players. and what he means by the passion is the support the community shows in their team and how passionate they are. state B a whole commmunity goes if their team is in, even if their kids dont play. Class A parents "might" go, but lets be honest, more would just follow the scores in the paper if they care at all. Class B a whole community rallies around 12 kids.

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NDSportsFan wrote:It's all relative. Talent level, Class A is better, passion and excitement - probably Class B.

what does passion have to do with class? i would say class a and class b players are care just as much you could actually make the argument class a would care more because class a players lets be honest they have a better shot at getting a scholarship....so are you gonna be more passionate thinking hey i can get my college payed for if i play well so they could care more you never know i dont neccessarily believe that but im just saying

there it is again thinking Class A is better.....look at the college rosters lately. there are just as many B players on them as their are A players. and what he means by the passion is the support the community shows in their team and how passionate they are. state B a whole commmunity goes if their team is in, even if their kids dont play. Class A parents "might" go, but lets be honest, more would just follow the scores in the paper if they care at all. Class B a whole community rallies around 12 kids.

Exactly - Just look at Parshall last year - I would venture to say that 80-85% of their entire community were in Bismarck last year - and many former community members and graduates as well. That's what happens in Class B. Class A - you don't have guys coming to watch their team in state that graduated 15 years ago and are living in Arizona or California or somewhere else - its not THAT big of a deal to them - but is in the B. Everyone comes out of the woodwork if their team - former team - or former community makes it. I know I've personally talked to people at the B who have come from those places and others - New Hampshire - New York, etc - to watch their cousins - brothers - friends kids - etc play in the B. I'm not positive - but I don't think you get that with A - just look at their attendance figures - its half of the B's - which makes no sense because they have at least 10 times the amount of people in their communities. THAT's PASSION BABY!

baseball wrote:

smart source wrote:

NDSportsFan wrote:It's all relative. Talent level, Class A is better, passion and excitement - probably Class B.

what does passion have to do with class? i would say class a and class b players are care just as much you could actually make the argument class a would care more because class a players lets be honest they have a better shot at getting a scholarship....so are you gonna be more passionate thinking hey i can get my college payed for if i play well so they could care more you never know i dont neccessarily believe that but im just saying

there it is again thinking Class A is better.....look at the college rosters lately. there are just as many B players on them as their are A players. and what he means by the passion is the support the community shows in their team and how passionate they are. state B a whole commmunity goes if their team is in, even if their kids dont play. Class A parents "might" go, but lets be honest, more would just follow the scores in the paper if they care at all. Class B a whole community rallies around 12 kids.

baseball wrote:i would say its more meaningful to the team who beats 125 other team and not just 18

NDSportsFan wrote:Are you saying that it's just as easy to win the Class B state championship, as it is to win the Class A?