just_wondering08 wrote:My neighbor's daughter was given six weeks because photos from the internet were given to the supt. depicting her at a party drinking. Does anyone know what the rules are regarding internet party photos and eligibility rules? The girl in the photo was not actually holding a liquor container or drinking, but all the other students around her were and there were beer and whiskey bottles on the table.
vballfan06 wrote:well it's pretty much common sense: don't put pictures of yourself at a party on the internet. that's pretty much a no-brainer.
vballfan06 wrote:well it's pretty much common sense: don't put pictures of yourself at a party on the internet. that's pretty much a no-brainer.
Baller wrote:vballfan06 wrote:well it's pretty much common sense: don't put pictures of yourself at a party on the internet. that's pretty much a no-brainer.
I realize that...but what if someone else puts a picture of you on their site??? They should just ban all cameras from parties. (or not party)
highheat wrote:i think the guilty by association rule needs to be changed a little. if there are pictures of a person at a party and there are other people drinking but that one person is not drinking, that does not imply that that person has been drinking.
i also disagree with school systems rules not matching up with the law. if a student is at a party and the cops show up, that person can request a breathalyzer to show that they were not taking part in any illegal activities. but that persons name gets put onto the same list of people who were drinking which gets sent to the school. that student receives the same punishment as a student who was drinking.
highheat wrote:it might just be me but it seems like school systems are trying to do far too much beyond educating the students. too much time is spent punishing students for their wrong doings outside of school and educating them on what is right/wrong to do. more time should be spent praising and encouraging students for their accomplishments in school. i cant recall one time in high school hearing about something positive happening when a student was called into the principals office but i can recall dozens of times other students were called into the office for their out of school activities.
i know most kids who arent drinking at the parties are there just to be with their friends. i dont see why they cant be there if theyre doing nothing wrong.
a picture cannot prove that a person consumed alcohol at a party where alcohol was present.
baseball wrote:ive seen pictures where there isnt a party but just two people at a house and in the background there is a liquor bottle or case of beer....the sad thing is that could be implied as they were drinking it just as easily if u see party photos
NDSportsFan wrote:That is absolutely correct.
It's been my personal experience that about 8 out of 10 people I've talked to wish they had been more serious students/athletes while they were in high school. There is a whole lifetime to party after you are done with high school. It really is ok to go against peer pressure and stay away from people who are drinking.
7-11 wrote:NDSportsFan wrote:That is absolutely correct.
It's been my personal experience that about 8 out of 10 people I've talked to wish they had been more serious students/athletes while they were in high school. There is a whole lifetime to party after you are done with high school. It really is ok to go against peer pressure and stay away from people who are drinking.
I agree. Athletes are and should be held to a higher standard; too bad our professional role models don't remember their influence. Even in high school, the elementary kids are in awe of the high school players. But I do believe that guilty by being in the area of drinking is too subjective, with too many variables, to have a hard rule. If an athlete goes to a gathering, sees drinking and leaves, he or she technically was still there. So is it then a question of how long before leaving? Recognition of the drinking? I would be willing to bet that every gathering has the potential of having alcohol and the students know it. All you can do is educate them not to give in to the peer pressure. What if the gathering didn't have any alcohol, and someone shows up with it in a pocket? The criminal system no longer can successfully prosecute constructive possession, such as a party or a vehicle without actual consumption or possession. That's why the statute is minor in possession or minor in consumption. The alcohol issue is always there, wherever the students go or get together. To allow any school or administrator to create their own law and administer it based on mere presence, without a check on their own subjectivity, or axes to grind with certain athletes, without any appeal right known to me, is wrong because you really cannot draw the line clearly as to timing, place, knowledge or other relevant factors. It's a strict liability rule, without a defense. Either they drank or had possession, but give those who don't at least the respect of making the right decision by not doing so. Should they leave, of course. But then, they're already guilty under the rule.
cubsfan wrote:This has happened at MPCG quite a few times. I believe they are banning photos that show evidence of doing illegal activity. I think that other schools should do the same.
highheat wrote:it might just be me but it seems like school systems are trying to do far too much beyond educating the students. too much time is spent punishing students for their wrong doings outside of school and educating them on what is right/wrong to do. more time should be spent praising and encouraging students for their accomplishments in school. i cant recall one time in high school hearing about something positive happening when a student was called into the principals office but i can recall dozens of times other students were called into the office for their out of school activities.
i know most kids who arent drinking at the parties are there just to be with their friends. i dont see why they cant be there if theyre doing nothing wrong.
a picture cannot prove that a person consumed alcohol at a party where alcohol was present.
Wild Wolves wrote:highheat wrote:it might just be me but it seems like school systems are trying to do far too much beyond educating the students. too much time is spent punishing students for their wrong doings outside of school and educating them on what is right/wrong to do. more time should be spent praising and encouraging students for their accomplishments in school. i cant recall one time in high school hearing about something positive happening when a student was called into the principals office but i can recall dozens of times other students were called into the office for their out of school activities.
i know most kids who arent drinking at the parties are there just to be with their friends. i dont see why they cant be there if theyre doing nothing wrong.
a picture cannot prove that a person consumed alcohol at a party where alcohol was present.
There was an editorial in the Bismarck Tribune about blaming the education system for everything. You have stated that it is not the schools responsibility to build character. However, more and more schools are placed in a situation tha requires them to teach these things. Absentee parenting has become the norm rather than the exception.
And concerning being called into the principal's office, I will throw out brown noser and goddy goody as the terms students use on those occassions so usually the students called in on a positive note won't admit it anyway.
There is no way that character can be seperated from a person. And teaching appears to be a very personal activity.
luvmy3gbb1wr wrote:Wild Wolves wrote:highheat wrote:it might just be me but it seems like school systems are trying to do far too much beyond educating the students. too much time is spent punishing students for their wrong doings outside of school and educating them on what is right/wrong to do. more time should be spent praising and encouraging students for their accomplishments in school. i cant recall one time in high school hearing about something positive happening when a student was called into the principals office but i can recall dozens of times other students were called into the office for their out of school activities.
i know most kids who arent drinking at the parties are there just to be with their friends. i dont see why they cant be there if theyre doing nothing wrong.
a picture cannot prove that a person consumed alcohol at a party where alcohol was present.
There was an editorial in the Bismarck Tribune about blaming the education system for everything. You have stated that it is not the schools responsibility to build character. However, more and more schools are placed in a situation tha requires them to teach these things. Absentee parenting has become the norm rather than the exception.
And concerning being called into the principal's office, I will throw out brown noser and goddy goody as the terms students use on those occassions so usually the students called in on a positive note won't admit it anyway.
There is no way that character can be seperated from a person. And teaching appears to be a very personal activity.
here, here
most teachers do praise and educate, the principal's job in large part is discipline; and even that is tough with parents coming in....my johnnie can't be punished, it's not his fault, someone made him do it; my linda would never cheat, the teacher is out to get her..........try being the school admin/teachers once; you'll get a whole new perspective on some kids and parents
Parties with alcohol, drinking; it's against school & NDHSAA policy for all students, don't go, avoid the situation, make a positive & responsible choice
you know the penalty, you know the rules; why argue when you're caught?
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