Number7 wrote:Well when they report it to the schools, it isnt always for athletics because kids who dont play sports get their minors called to the school too. Normally, anyone who gets a minor that is reported to the school has to take some form of class/program through the school or an outside source and report to the school when its completed. Im guessing its still confidential information because it isnt being presented to the public. the school keeps that information private just as they would somebody's transcript. I do think they can put minors in the paper though for traffic violations (not positive though).
baseball wrote:my point is that federal and state laws should not decide if a kid plays sports and what not. if a kid is gonna get suspended it should be for cheating, or skipping class and other school related activities. my point with the laws was that why is it that just the drinking and smoking law gets a kid suspended, when if he gets a speeding ticket he gets no penalty...
luvmy3gbb1wr wrote:amen
when you agree to play sports or participate in any other activity regulated by the NDHSAA, you agree to abide by the rules (and sanctions, punishments) if you break them. Stop whining about confidentiality. Spend more time playing by the rules instead of trying to figure out ways to break the rules and get away with it. Quit crying about the consequences.....When you break rules and laws and get caught, there are punishments. Learn it.
balla45 wrote:luvmy3gbb1wr wrote:amen
when you agree to play sports or participate in any other activity regulated by the NDHSAA, you agree to abide by the rules (and sanctions, punishments) if you break them. Stop whining about confidentiality. Spend more time playing by the rules instead of trying to figure out ways to break the rules and get away with it. Quit crying about the consequences.....When you break rules and laws and get caught, there are punishments. Learn it.
I have not been whining about confidentiality, I was simply wondering whether or not it mattered. I also spend no time trying to figure out how to not get caught, I simply don't do illegal activities, and if you do, I suggest you stop. That is if you value your season AND your teammate's seasons.
luvmy3gbb1wr wrote:balla45 wrote:luvmy3gbb1wr wrote:amen
when you agree to play sports or participate in any other activity regulated by the NDHSAA, you agree to abide by the rules (and sanctions, punishments) if you break them. Stop whining about confidentiality. Spend more time playing by the rules instead of trying to figure out ways to break the rules and get away with it. Quit crying about the consequences.....When you break rules and laws and get caught, there are punishments. Learn it.
I have not been whining about confidentiality, I was simply wondering whether or not it mattered. I also spend no time trying to figure out how to not get caught, I simply don't do illegal activities, and if you do, I suggest you stop. That is if you value your season AND your teammate's seasons.
I spoke with 2 principals and the NDHSAA.........a state law requires law enforcement to report to the student's school district any violations concerning alcohol, tobacco, criminal behavior, etc. Confidentiality only exists if the media/people were to call the school asking for why Jim-Bob didn't play in last night's game. The school can only say, "not playing for disciplinary reasons."
Ming01 wrote:it isn't just school rules, but it is also state law that if you are underage and at a party with alcohol, even if you're not drinking it is still guilty by association.
rules are rules and if you can't abide by them then you shouldn't have the privledge to participate in co-curricular acitivies. if you dont want to get caught then dont take the chance...
Hinsa wrote:NO!
Just stay the H-E-double toothpick away from the party!!!!!
baseball wrote:Hinsa wrote:NO!
Just stay the H-E-double toothpick away from the party!!!!!
WIERD!!!
because i know its happened before...officer i didnt drink, test me. ok. nothing, ok your free to go...
baseball wrote:Hinsa wrote:NO!
Just stay the H-E-double toothpick away from the party!!!!!
WIERD!!!
because i know its happened before...officer i didnt drink, test me. ok. nothing, ok your free to go...
BBall dominator wrote:there was a case I know of that happened in the bismarck area. A player was at a party that was getting busted and took a breathalyzer and the cop sent him home w/o a second thought. there are alot of narcs out there so really don't take pictures of yourself I know its hard in the age of myspace and facebook. I know you can't get charged w/ underage drinking by just a picture its a little disappointing the schools feel they have to be judge and jury.
luvmy3gbb1wr wrote:BBall dominator wrote:there was a case I know of that happened in the bismarck area. A player was at a party that was getting busted and took a breathalyzer and the cop sent him home w/o a second thought. there are alot of narcs out there so really don't take pictures of yourself I know its hard in the age of myspace and facebook. I know you can't get charged w/ underage drinking by just a picture its a little disappointing the schools feel they have to be judge and jury.
what part of underage drinking is ok? obviously bismarck has no guilt by association but many schools do.......and for the last time, it's against the rules; why are you blaming someone else for the kid's mistakes? Take some responsibility for your actions; you made the choice to go, be around alcohol or drink. Deal with the results.
BBall dominator wrote:luvmy3gbb1wr wrote:BBall dominator wrote:there was a case I know of that happened in the bismarck area. A player was at a party that was getting busted and took a breathalyzer and the cop sent him home w/o a second thought. there are alot of narcs out there so really don't take pictures of yourself I know its hard in the age of myspace and facebook. I know you can't get charged w/ underage drinking by just a picture its a little disappointing the schools feel they have to be judge and jury.
what part of underage drinking is ok? obviously bismarck has no guilt by association but many schools do.......and for the last time, it's against the rules; why are you blaming someone else for the kid's mistakes? Take some responsibility for your actions; you made the choice to go, be around alcohol or drink. Deal with the results.
I"m not saying underage drinking is ok. I'm saying I don't like that some jealous kid or someone who had a problem w/ someone took this to the school. They shouldn't drink if they are in a sport but I'd say atleast 20% of HS athletes do some form or partying either it be in season or out. In HS I never put myself in that position but I don't think that if I was at a friends house and someone brought over some beer I'd just get up and run out of the house.
baseball wrote:BBall dominator wrote:luvmy3gbb1wr wrote:BBall dominator wrote:there was a case I know of that happened in the bismarck area. A player was at a party that was getting busted and took a breathalyzer and the cop sent him home w/o a second thought. there are alot of narcs out there so really don't take pictures of yourself I know its hard in the age of myspace and facebook. I know you can't get charged w/ underage drinking by just a picture its a little disappointing the schools feel they have to be judge and jury.
what part of underage drinking is ok? obviously bismarck has no guilt by association but many schools do.......and for the last time, it's against the rules; why are you blaming someone else for the kid's mistakes? Take some responsibility for your actions; you made the choice to go, be around alcohol or drink. Deal with the results.
I"m not saying underage drinking is ok. I'm saying I don't like that some jealous kid or someone who had a problem w/ someone took this to the school. They shouldn't drink if they are in a sport but I'd say atleast 20% of HS athletes do some form or partying either it be in season or out. In HS I never put myself in that position but I don't think that if I was at a friends house and someone brought over some beer I'd just get up and run out of the house.
i would say only about 20% DONT do some form of partying....
baseball wrote:just tell me why the kids who are there just for fun are getting in trouble. a bunch of kids get together, 1 or 2 brings beer so that means the reason of the group has to suffer for it?? the kid made the right choice to not drink, why is he punished? and dont say he shouldnt be there cuz thats a weak excuse. hes there to be with his friends LEGALLY, but somebody he didnt even konw was going to be there brings alchohol he sits out 6 weeks?? wheres the logic?
Hinsa wrote:baseball wrote:just tell me why the kids who are there just for fun are getting in trouble. a bunch of kids get together, 1 or 2 brings beer so that means the reason of the group has to suffer for it?? the kid made the right choice to not drink, why is he punished? and dont say he shouldnt be there cuz thats a weak excuse. hes there to be with his friends LEGALLY, but somebody he didnt even konw was going to be there brings alchohol he sits out 6 weeks?? wheres the logic?
By being at a party where illegal activities are happening they are passively supporting the illegal activity. Athletes are supposed to uphold a higher standard and if they stay at a place where kids are drinking they are supporting that activity. If the athletes really want to set a higher standard they should tell those that brought the beer to leave. And if those that brought the beer won't leave the athlete has the free will to leave. That takes true courage - to take a stand and show those that are drinking that they DON'T support their drinking by leaving.
I just cannot believe that you continue to make excuses for things that are wrong.
Underage drinking is illegal. Being around illegal activity is supporting that activity. Athletes are supposed to uphold a higher set of morals.
Hinsa wrote:baseball wrote:just tell me why the kids who are there just for fun are getting in trouble. a bunch of kids get together, 1 or 2 brings beer so that means the reason of the group has to suffer for it?? the kid made the right choice to not drink, why is he punished? and dont say he shouldnt be there cuz thats a weak excuse. hes there to be with his friends LEGALLY, but somebody he didnt even konw was going to be there brings alchohol he sits out 6 weeks?? wheres the logic?
By being at a party where illegal activities are happening they are passively supporting the illegal activity. Athletes are supposed to uphold a higher standard and if they stay at a place where kids are drinking they are supporting that activity. If the athletes really want to set a higher standard they should tell those that brought the beer to leave. And if those that brought the beer won't leave the athlete has the free will to leave. That takes true courage - to take a stand and show those that are drinking that they DON'T support their drinking by leaving.
I just cannot believe that you continue to make excuses for things that are wrong.
Underage drinking is illegal. Being around illegal activity is supporting that activity. Athletes are supposed to uphold a higher set of morals.
baseball wrote:Hinsa wrote:baseball wrote:just tell me why the kids who are there just for fun are getting in trouble. a bunch of kids get together, 1 or 2 brings beer so that means the reason of the group has to suffer for it?? the kid made the right choice to not drink, why is he punished? and dont say he shouldnt be there cuz thats a weak excuse. hes there to be with his friends LEGALLY, but somebody he didnt even konw was going to be there brings alchohol he sits out 6 weeks?? wheres the logic?
By being at a party where illegal activities are happening they are passively supporting the illegal activity. Athletes are supposed to uphold a higher standard and if they stay at a place where kids are drinking they are supporting that activity. If the athletes really want to set a higher standard they should tell those that brought the beer to leave. And if those that brought the beer won't leave the athlete has the free will to leave. That takes true courage - to take a stand and show those that are drinking that they DON'T support their drinking by leaving.
I just cannot believe that you continue to make excuses for things that are wrong.
Underage drinking is illegal. Being around illegal activity is supporting that activity. Athletes are supposed to uphold a higher set of morals.
how do you guys get that im supporting underage drinking? im not making excuses for the things that are wrong, im "making excuses" for the kids who get in trouble WITHOUT doing something wrong.
If they leave and dont call the cops that is just as much....passive support....as if you stay and dont drink. why would i want to let the kids who are drinking and smoking tell me what i can and cant do. say im in the weight room lifting and some kids walk over and start talking to me and they are drinking. i guess i have to stop lifting and leave becuase if i dont i support their drinking
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