scoobyx2 wrote:Indy5 wrote:old#63 wrote:scoobyx2 wrote:ndfan wrote:Run4Fun2009 wrote:How does a college like UND have to change the Sioux nickname, whereas a high school (Westhope-Newburg) doesn't have to change their Sioux nickname?
Because the last time I checked Westhope wasn't affiliated with the NCAA.
Florida State is affliated with the NCAA, and they get to stay as the Seminoles. I understand that the governing group in Florida approved it, but it could still be offensive to someone.
The only way the NCAA gave exemptions was if the local tribes endorsed it. That just didn't happen for UND. Florida State Seminoles, Central Michigan Chippawas, and Utah Utes all got approval from the local tribes and were granted exemptions. UND couldn't get that to happen. I really thought when Murphy got voted in as Tribal Chairman at Standing Rock that he would let the tribe vote on it, but he didn't. End of the story.
Aren't the Utes a fake tribe like the Illini?
The Fighting Illini is an honored group of Illinoisans who fought in World War 1. The the Chief symbol (that was retired) was adopted after the Fighting Illini nickname was established.
Exactly. The name of the tribe that inhabited Illinois was the Illiniweks. The state of Illinois was named after that tribe, but "Illini" was ruled by the NCAA to be a nickname for the state rather than the tribe. But the use of "Chief Illiniwek" and any association of the Illini to native american heritage was discontinued. I suppose it would be the same deal if UND was the Dakotans instead of the Sioux. They would probably be allowed to keep the Dakotan name but still would have to get rid of the native american symbolism.