Tim Miles gonzo....

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Postby rep » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:28 pm

According to the Bison Media blog, Tim Miles is headed to the Rams. Don't know anything more concrete, it sounds like the wwl reported it and the Fargo boys found out about it that way.

I'm really curious to see NDSU pull another rabbit out of their hat and find another coaching diamond. Should get some interest...young program on the rise and that in itself should attract some people.

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Postby NDSportsFan » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:33 pm

 I'm pretty sure Saul Phillips is staying behind to take over as coach.  With his resume, he has deserved the chance.  As a Bison fan, I just hope he can live up to what Tim Miles has started here.    You can't argue with what Craig Smith is doing in Mayville, but in this situation, if Saul stays behind, the job is his.
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Postby point/center » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:48 pm

I'm surprised rep didnt post this link?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2807786

I'd agree Saul Phillips is solid in house.....or launch a search for a HUGE name assistant from a BIG time programl. Craig Smith is NAIA. NDSU is DI.....i think that's to big of a leap even if Smith is a great coach.
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Postby Wild Wolves » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:27 am

Smith was a Bison assistant before he took the Mayville job.  I don't think Smith who started his college coaching career as Miles asst. at Mayville and moved to SW Minn. and then NDSU should be over looked.  He turned Mayville around very quickly (1- 27) year before he took over, what was that 3 years ago and in the title tilt.
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Postby BaldEagle » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:05 am

Congrats to Miles!

Always good to see a coach stepping up, rather than stepping down.

Phillips or Smith would be great.
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Postby point/center » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:06 am

Wild Wolves wrote:Smith was a Bison assistant before he took the Mayville job.  I don't think Smith who started his college coaching career as Miles asst. at Mayville and moved to SW Minn. and then NDSU should be over looked.  He turned Mayville around very quickly (1- 27) year before he took over, what was that 3 years ago and in the title tilt.

I just don't get that line of thinking. NAIA to D1. Has that EVER been done?

So if Craig Bohl leaves then Damon Tomeau would be the leading candidate for NDSU FB?
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Postby point/center » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:07 am

let me make myself a little more clear. There is NO CHANCE that NDSU Teammakers let's NDSU hire Craig Smith...ZERO
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Postby ndfan » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:13 am

[user=26]point/center[/user] wrote:
I'm surprised rep didnt post this link?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2807786

I'd agree Saul Phillips is solid in house.....or launch a search for a HUGE name assistant from a BIG time programl. Craig Smith is NAIA. NDSU is DI.....i think that's to big of a leap even if Smith is a great coach.


How much more credentials does Saul Phillips have then Smith from Mayville? Has Phillips ever been a head coach?? I think NDSU needs to stay in state and take Smith well it can.
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Postby point/center » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:24 am

ndfan wrote:[user=26]point/center[/user] wrote:
I'm surprised rep didnt post this link?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2807786

I'd agree Saul Phillips is solid in house.....or launch a search for a HUGE name assistant from a BIG time programl. Craig Smith is NAIA. NDSU is DI.....i think that's to big of a leap even if Smith is a great coach.


How much more credentials does Saul Phillips have then Smith from Mayville? Has Phillips ever been a head coach?? I think NDSU needs to stay in state and take Smith well it can.

so evidently Phillips who spent time standing on the sideline with a big time coach Ryan at big time Wisconsin rates lower than Smith at Mayville?
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Postby BaldEagle » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:29 am

Bo Ryan went from a DIII UW-Plattesville to DI UW-Milwaukee.  Ryan had spent time as an assistant at UW-Madison prior to Plattesville.  It's possible for Smith to rise to a Mid-Major coaching position.  Depends on who wants the job and NDSU's priorities. 
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Postby point/center » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:32 am

I just think that NDSU is no longer labled by coaches as an unstable transitional D1 mid-major, so they don't have to take a flier on a 'maybe' candidate. I'd say Phillips has better D1 connections if they keep it in house. I'd still think some other high quality BCS assistants would be interested in a DI job at a mid-major.
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Postby NDSportsFan » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:11 am

 I don't think Craig Smith to NDSU is that bad of a deal, however Phillips is already there, knows the players, knows the system that has been successful with them and has the DI credentials.  If he was not the guy, he would have followed Miles to CSU and a higher paying assistent job.  I like Craig Smith and would be excited to see him take over, obviously he can recruit, and he knows the x's and o's, but I think Miles knew the program was in good hands if he left with Philipps.
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Postby bballfan_05 » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:39 am

I find this move by Miles interesting in the fact that NDSU was eligible for the playoffs in a couple years, however, I also see that when an opportunity exsists to move up, one has to take it. I don't see why bringing Smith in would be totally bad, he is very intelligent about the game and since he was an assistant under Miles, he would know where the team was. In some ways, its always good to promote in house guys, but one knows with what Smith has done at Mayville that hes going on to bigger and better things in the near future.
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Postby Wild Wolves » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:20 am

Do you think UND would ever hire an NAIA head coach to lead their FB team?
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Postby Baller » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:22 am

Wild Wolves wrote:Do you think UND would ever hire an NAIA head coach to lead their FB team?

Dale Lennon ring a bell??
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Postby point/center » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:26 am

Wild Wolves wrote:Do you think UND would ever hire an NAIA head coach to lead their FB team?

sure when they were NCAA D2. If Lennon leaves you would then think that Myron Schulz would be a lead candidate at UND?
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Postby point/center » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:29 am

local sports talk show host just commented that Smith leaving MaSU for CSU as an assistant is a possibility, but not going to be in the running for NDSU job
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Postby point/center » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:38 am

he wrapped up his segment saying current GA Richman is going with. Saul Phillips and Todd Koering will stay on and apply for the HC job.
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Postby Wild Wolves » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:43 am

How does that make sense?  Can't be the head guy at NDSU but could be a top assistant at Colo.  NDSU is missing out, I hope they aren't trying to follow the Minn. example.

Myron is the header at a DII school with a winning tradition(not a winning DII tradition but none the less) .  I knew the answer to my question, it was meant to illustrate a point.
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Postby point/center » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:50 am

Wild Wolves wrote:How does that make sense?  Can't be the head guy at NDSU but could be a top assistant at Colo.  NDSU is missing out, I hope they aren't trying to follow the Minn. example.

Myron is the header at a DII school with a winning tradition(not a winning DII tradition but none the less) .  I knew the answer to my question, it was meant to illustrate a point.
makes sense to me. it relates that a top NAIA coach is good enough to jump into a DI assistant job(Miller didnt say TOP assistant, just assistant) but not good enough to be a DI head coach. maybe he goes to CSU and then get's a chance at a D1?

when Lennon went to UND it was NAIA to NCAA DII. Smith would be NAIA to DI.
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Postby point/center » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:00 am

wow...they just put Ray Giacolletti's name in the hat. Former NDSU coach who was bought out from Utah. I figured a few zingers were going to come out. Dan Monson's name was also mentioned.
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Postby NDSportsFan » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:07 am

 I'm guessing the emergency players meeting was to let the players know and to inform them that Phillips would be applying for the job, so they did not panic and contemplate jumping ship.  I'm guessing Miles had conversations with both Phillips and Taylor before accepting the position. 
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Postby point/center » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:57 am

I found it interesting in Grand Forks when they noted that Rich Glas went from NCAA DII to an assistant job with Ben Jake at UNI, and then the path McDermott took to make it to DI. They indicated Glas might be interested. I'd doubt that.
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Postby Wild Wolves » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:07 am

Do we have any officail word or is this all a bunch of hot air being spewed on the radio?

You know that 95% of half the things you hear on the radio are only partially true.
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Postby point/center » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:13 am

I think when Steve Hallstrom and Scott Miller say stuff as broadcast journalists, that it's got some merit.
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