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ok i mean if he would retire right now, where would he stand among the greatest of ALL TIME!!! personally i think right now, he would be in the top 15 or 10, but at the end of his career, which isnt too soon, top 5

balla45 wrote:I'm also going to throw this out there. Look at the list of the 50 greatest players of all time. Do you notice that people are judged on how they dominated in their respective era?

That was a list of people who did good in their era.

However, among best players of all-time, straight up, Kobe is no doubt in the top ten

okay i mean him right now how does he rank in ALL TIME. personally he is up at least in the top 15 if not top ten

cornerback*22* wrote:okay i mean him right now how does he rank in ALL TIME. personally he is up at least in the top 15 if not top ten

I know what you meant like that? Are you saying against how he does against his competition compared to how others do against their competition, or are you saying how he would do if all players from all eras were consolidated into one league.

cornerback*22* wrote:okay i mean him right now how does he rank in ALL TIME. personally he is up at least in the top 15 if not top ten

Just for clarification, do you mean best in his time, as balla suggests. Or best players, as I suggest.

ok well you dont rate MJ on how he would do against wilt you know, its what he did, and right now Kobe is at the top level ever and is the best

cornerback*22* wrote:ok well you dont rate MJ on how he would do against wilt you know, its what he did, and right now Kobe is at the top level ever and is the best

Thank you.

balla45 wrote:

cornerback*22* wrote:ok well you dont rate MJ on how he would do against wilt you know, its what he did, and right now Kobe is at the top level ever and is the best

Thank you.

But Kobe still was the better player. Yes?

thejoker wrote:

balla45 wrote:

cornerback*22* wrote:ok well you dont rate MJ on how he would do against wilt you know, its what he did, and right now Kobe is at the top level ever and is the best

Thank you.

But Kobe still was the better player. Yes?

whoa, than MJ?????? i am a huuuuge Kobe and Laker fan but even i know Mj is the greatest

We know what he meant. Now, which player from my list is Kobe better than. I am going to add Bill Russell to my list. Now its 11.

cornerback*22* wrote:

thejoker wrote:

balla45 wrote:

cornerback*22* wrote:ok well you dont rate MJ on how he would do against wilt you know, its what he did, and right now Kobe is at the top level ever and is the best

Thank you.

But Kobe still was the better player. Yes?

whoa, than MJ?????? i am a huuuuge Kobe and Laker fan but even i know Mj is the greatest

Oh no. MJ is number one

thejoker wrote:

cornerback*22* wrote:

thejoker wrote:

balla45 wrote:

cornerback*22* wrote:ok well you dont rate MJ on how he would do against wilt you know, its what he did, and right now Kobe is at the top level ever and is the best

Thank you.

But Kobe still was the better player. Yes?

whoa, than MJ?????? i am a huuuuge Kobe and Laker fan but even i know Mj is the greatest

Oh no. MJ is number one

ya definitely, but right now in this era, not counting MJ, Wilt, Kareem, Kobe is the best basketball player right now

Kobe is arguably the best player in this era. Garnett, Duncan, and LeBron can all compare favorably in my opinion. Agree or disagree? Why?

Come on, don't let me win that easily. That defeats the purpose of this argument.

balla45 wrote:Kobe is arguably the best player in this era. Garnett, Duncan, and LeBron can all compare favorably in my opinion. Agree or disagree? Why?

Although Kobe is my third favorite out of these four, he is the best.

One example, look what happened when he decided to join team USA.

thejoker wrote:

balla45 wrote:Kobe is arguably the best player in this era. Garnett, Duncan, and LeBron can all compare favorably in my opinion. Agree or disagree? Why?

Although Kobe is my third favorite out of these four, he is the best.

One example, look what happened when he decided to join team USA.

You can also give credit to Coach K, the 3 year commitment, and all of the other players on the team. It wasn't the Kobe Bryant show, however, he did take over in the gold medal game, as did LeBron.

I don't know if this belongs here or the USA basketball thread. But

Do you think the Dream team would kill the Redeem Team, as many people suggest?

thejoker wrote:I don't know if this belongs here or the USA basketball thread. But

Do you think the Dream team would kill the Redeem Team, as many people suggest?

Yes. As for why.

http://nbadraft.net/node/1832

I most like the point that Michael Jordan would simply raise the level of his play like only he can.

balla45 wrote:

thejoker wrote:I don't know if this belongs here or the USA basketball thread. But

Do you think the Dream team would kill the Redeem Team, as many people suggest?

Yes. As for why.

http://nbadraft.net/node/1832

http://www.nbadraft.net/node/1831

Also, the level of competition in international basketball has grown unfathomably over the past decade or so.

Just to put it in here, I think the Dream Team would win, but a much closer margin than others say.

thejoker wrote:

balla45 wrote:

thejoker wrote:I don't know if this belongs here or the USA basketball thread. But

Do you think the Dream team would kill the Redeem Team, as many people suggest?

Yes. As for why.

http://nbadraft.net/node/1832

http://www.nbadraft.net/node/1831

Also, the level of competition in international basketball has grown unfathomably over the past decade or so.

I read both. I personally think the Dream Team would have walked through it even more. They were more cohesive and more fundamentally sound defensively.

Yes, I agree with you. I think the game would come down to Jordan showing why he is the greatest finisher to play the game.

balla45 wrote:

thejoker wrote:

balla45 wrote:

thejoker wrote:I don't know if this belongs here or the USA basketball thread. But

Do you think the Dream team would kill the Redeem Team, as many people suggest?

Yes. As for why.

http://nbadraft.net/node/1832

http://www.nbadraft.net/node/1831

Also, the level of competition in international basketball has grown unfathomably over the past decade or so.

I read both. I personally think the Dream Team would have walked through it even more. They were more cohesive and more fundamentally sound defensively.

The article gave chemistry to the Redeem Team.

Also, don't forget about Kobe as a defender and Chris Paul.

thejoker wrote:

balla45 wrote:

thejoker wrote:

balla45 wrote:

thejoker wrote:I don't know if this belongs here or the USA basketball thread. But

Do you think the Dream team would kill the Redeem Team, as many people suggest?

Yes. As for why.

http://nbadraft.net/node/1832

http://www.nbadraft.net/node/1831

Also, the level of competition in international basketball has grown unfathomably over the past decade or so.

I read both. I personally think the Dream Team would have walked through it even more. They were more cohesive and more fundamentally sound defensively.

The article gave chemistry to the Redeem Team.

Also, don't forget about Kobe as a defender and Chris Paul.

Have not forgotten. I just don't think Kobe could stop Jordan. If Paul is to guard Magic, he won't be able to stop him in the post anyway. The other way around, Jordan could hold Kobe, and the Dream Team's help defense is vastly superior to the Redeem Team's. Add to that the fact that the Redeem team only had 3 players shoot well from 3 in Wade, Redd, and Bryant, and I have to give the edge to the Dream Team.

balla45 wrote:

thejoker wrote:

balla45 wrote:

thejoker wrote:

balla45 wrote:

thejoker wrote:I don't know if this belongs here or the USA basketball thread. But

Do you think the Dream team would kill the Redeem Team, as many people suggest?

Yes. As for why.

http://nbadraft.net/node/1832

http://www.nbadraft.net/node/1831

Also, the level of competition in international basketball has grown unfathomably over the past decade or so.

I read both. I personally think the Dream Team would have walked through it even more. They were more cohesive and more fundamentally sound defensively.

The article gave chemistry to the Redeem Team.

Also, don't forget about Kobe as a defender and Chris Paul.

Have not forgotten. I just don't think Kobe could stop Jordan. If Paul is to guard Magic, he won't be able to stop him in the post anyway. The other way around, Jordan could hold Kobe, and the Dream Team's help defense is vastly superior to the Redeem Team's. Add to that the fact that the Redeem team only had 3 players shoot well from 3 in Wade, Redd, and Bryant, and I have to give the edge to the Dream Team.

Who would guard Wade then. And Lebron

Magic couldn't contain hardly anyone of those and Bird couldn't keep up