LB21 wrote:Reload or Recruit?
2007 Narveson from North, Burdick from WF. 2006 McBane from Hazen. 2005 Graalum from Shanley, Anderson from WF.
Red River will be your state champ again unless Grafton can pull the upset. South will implode again. Chemistry and selfish play will make them a distant third.
i agree saw an oppurtunity to play with a team that competes for state every yearHockeyHigh wrote:LB21 wrote:Reload or Recruit?
2007 Narveson from North, Burdick from WF. 2006 McBane from Hazen. 2005 Graalum from Shanley, Anderson from WF.
Red River will be your state champ again unless Grafton can pull the upset. South will implode again. Chemistry and selfish play will make them a distant third.
Although Sportshound kinda bit off more than he can chew, would you consider Fargo South to be recruiting, or are players seeing better opportunity and chance at a state title with Fargo South rather than their home teams. All the players you listed came from towns that, hate to say it, have little or no chance of winning a state championship (West Fargo, Hazen, North, Shanley). Not bashing these hockey programs, they trained some these players to where they are now, but they made a choice to go to a more storied program. Looking at South without the recent transfers reveal they still have a very solid team, if only lacking in small areas (This year would be defense, not many senior D for South). This probably led to the transfer of aforementioned players.
I do agree that team chemistry and selfishness will play a large role in how Fargo South does this year, as it did last year. I believe it was on this forum that I read someone say "Players transfering is selfishness, selfishness leads to losses." A quote similar to that. I think this was reflected in Fargo South last year where they struggled a lot with selfishness, they seemed to pull it together for EDC (Destroying the brackets) but lost that and played for themselves during state. I think that'll be the determinant in South's ranking this year also. A big step that FS will have to overcome, while Red River and Grafton (South's competition) will not have to face.
In response to Sportshound, I wouldn't say it's just RR worrying about Grafton, I think Fargo South and Grafton are about on par this year (Fargo south just slightly ahead) as of now, Red River being above them both by a slight margin also. It's going to be a huge fight for the #1 #2 and #3 spots, but with the obvious favorite as of now being Red River. (But at the same time last year, many people thought South was the huge favorite, until the first game of South v. Red River. South dominated through the first part of their season against some of the best teams in MN and collapsed against RR)
HockeyHigh wrote:Only problem with that is, it takes the focus off the team and adds selfishness to teams, these transfers may bring South additional skill, but last year it seemed to do a lot of harm, even though they still had a great season.
Baller wrote:HockeyHigh wrote:Only problem with that is, it takes the focus off the team and adds selfishness to teams, these transfers may bring South additional skill, but last year it seemed to do a lot of harm, even though they still had a great season.
It doesn't take transfers to cause selfishness...the only transfer at South last year was McBain and he was forced to play JV most of the season
the way im looking at it is these kids are the only good players on their old team and think that if they transfer to that school that they would help the school win and be great,sometimes it works sometimes it doesntHockeyHigh wrote:Baller wrote:HockeyHigh wrote:Only problem with that is, it takes the focus off the team and adds selfishness to teams, these transfers may bring South additional skill, but last year it seemed to do a lot of harm, even though they still had a great season.
It doesn't take transfers to cause selfishness...the only transfer at South last year was McBain and he was forced to play JV most of the season
However, a large amount of the team was out of other cities (even if earlier in their time playing hockey, for other reasons). I think McBain was the only one that came to South for hockey primarily, several others were moved to South also (Anderson, Wurden, Graalum, etc) weren't originally from Fargo. Of course this isn't for hockey and kind of pushes the meaning a bit. You are right that it's mainly the players themselves that cause selfishness, but I think that transfering (such as in some of these cases) just for hockey is not about the team, it's about the player. This would emphasize selfishness, i
I agree, it's just in the past, South specifically has had trouble with team cohesion, so this could be another spark to the fire, good or bad. It works or it doesn't.brownbomber wrote:the way im looking at it is these kids are the only good players on their old team and think that if they transfer to that school that they would help the school win and be great,sometimes it works sometimes it doesntHockeyHigh wrote:Baller wrote:HockeyHigh wrote:Only problem with that is, it takes the focus off the team and adds selfishness to teams, these transfers may bring South additional skill, but last year it seemed to do a lot of harm, even though they still had a great season.
It doesn't take transfers to cause selfishness...the only transfer at South last year was McBain and he was forced to play JV most of the season
However, a large amount of the team was out of other cities (even if earlier in their time playing hockey, for other reasons). I think McBain was the only one that came to South for hockey primarily, several others were moved to South also (Anderson, Wurden, Graalum, etc) weren't originally from Fargo. Of course this isn't for hockey and kind of pushes the meaning a bit. You are right that it's mainly the players themselves that cause selfishness, but I think that transfering (such as in some of these cases) just for hockey is not about the team, it's about the player. This would emphasize selfishness, i
Sportshound wrote:Just Saw this: Midwest high school Elite Hockey league
these guys are doing very well:
North Dakota should be proud: These Sr. and others that play on Elite Team
Eric Meland(Red River) 12g/15a/27 #1 on the team #10 overall in League
ladoucer(red river) 2g/10a/12 #48 overall in league
simonsin(now RR) 3g/9a/12 #50 overall
Schaefer(RR) 8g/3a/11 #63 overall
Groth(Fargo South) 4g/6a/10 #65 overall
Powers(fargo south) 4g/3a/7
Galbreath(RR) 0g/4a/4
others: juniors
Demers(Grafton) 6g/7a/13 #47 overall
Narveson(now South) 2g/6a/8 #80 overall
Hills(grafton) 1g/3a/4
That is 7 players from ND in the Top 80 in Scoring in the Midwest HS Elite League.
that is very good. against top competition.
Gman1 wrote:i still think RR is the team to beat until someone knocks them off lets face it they always find a way to win when it comes to tournament time they are just that good. Melland should win Mr.hockey him or i could see ladoucer winning it also they have a good coach in malm and good goaltending in arneson they have three solid lines the top two defensemen in the state yeah give them the trophy right now and everyone else play for second
Saucesauer wrote:Gman1 wrote:i still think RR is the team to beat until someone knocks them off lets face it they always find a way to win when it comes to tournament time they are just that good. Melland should win Mr.hockey him or i could see ladoucer winning it also they have a good coach in malm and good goaltending in arneson they have three solid lines the top two defensemen in the state yeah give them the trophy right now and everyone else play for second
Its true did they even lose a starter i think they lost like 2 third liners they return a ton and south did lose a little bit and lets not forget was it 7-1 RR when they played late in the season
i dont care 8 buff is an ace kickin and RR didnt lose squat but south lost some ya knowHockeyHigh wrote:Saucesauer wrote:Gman1 wrote:i still think RR is the team to beat until someone knocks them off lets face it they always find a way to win when it comes to tournament time they are just that good. Melland should win Mr.hockey him or i could see ladoucer winning it also they have a good coach in malm and good goaltending in arneson they have three solid lines the top two defensemen in the state yeah give them the trophy right now and everyone else play for second
Its true did they even lose a starter i think they lost like 2 third liners they return a ton and south did lose a little bit and lets not forget was it 7-1 RR when they played late in the season
I think the actual score was 8-0, and the shots were supposedly about even. Diechert was a seive. RR just found out that he was a headcase and if you slipped one by him he let them all in.
brownbomber wrote:does anyone know how jamestown and dl turned out?
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