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Class A/ AA plan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:27 pm
by madseason
Class A East- Grafton, Langdon, Park River , Whapeton, Mayport, Valley City. West Fargo sheyanne 1st couple years? West- Crosby, Watford City, Hazen Beulah, Bottineau, Rugby, Richland (Sydney MT). Bismarck Legacy 1st couple years?. AA East- Central, Red River,
Davies, South, North, West Fargo, Devils Lake. West- Bismarck, Bismarck Century, Minot, Mandan, Dickinson, Williston, Jamestown. The season lasts one week longer (might help with the Engelstad problem?) State A tournament a week before the AA regionals. Winner of A gets pick at what region they will be seeded 8th in AA, runner up gets the other. I think schools like Red River, Central, Minot, Bismarck teams could also have enough players that they CUT to make a C squad to play in the A division? This would Grow Hockey in the state. IMO Minnesota does it right.

Re: Class A/ AA plan

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:20 am
by Flip
There was a co-op agreed upon between MPCG, CV, Hillsboro, and Hope-Page I believe for the 17-18 season. Will they just be in the EDC next year?

Re: Class A/ AA plan

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:40 am
by scc
Flip wrote:There was a co-op agreed upon between MPCG, CV, Hillsboro, and Hope-Page I believe for the 17-18 season. Will they just be in the EDC next year?

My understanding is they'll play an independent schedule.

Re: Class A/ AA plan

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:38 am
by hockeynut
madseason wrote:Class A East- Grafton, Langdon, Park River , Whapeton, Mayport, Valley City. West Fargo sheyanne 1st couple years? West- Crosby, Watford City, Hazen Beulah, Bottineau, Rugby, Richland (Sydney MT). Bismarck Legacy 1st couple years?. AA East- Central, Red River,
Davies, South, North, West Fargo, Devils Lake. West- Bismarck, Bismarck Century, Minot, Mandan, Dickinson, Williston, Jamestown. The season lasts one week longer (might help with the Engelstad problem?) State A tournament a week before the AA regionals. Winner of A gets pick at what region they will be seeded 8th in AA, runner up gets the other. I think schools like Red River, Central, Minot, Bismarck teams could also have enough players that they CUT to make a C squad to play in the A division? This would Grow Hockey in the state. IMO Minnesota does it right.

Valley City co-ops with Jamestown. They don’t have enough players to field a team the way it is. Jamestown would be weaker yet without VC as they have only made state twice since 99’.

Re: Class A/ AA plan

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:33 pm
by nomogprhokee
Jamestown can go A then! Valley city's hockey program falls apart after squirts for the same reason the park rivers program has struggled after squirts. Valley city has had some very good squirt teams over the past 5 years . They don't retain the players in the "coop". At least Jamestown tries to do it right by using a neutral name and colors in the Coop, unlike the mess they have up in Grafton and park river.

Re: Class A/ AA plan

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:55 pm
by Run4Fun2009
scc wrote:
Flip wrote:There was a co-op agreed upon between MPCG, CV, Hillsboro, and Hope-Page I believe for the 17-18 season. Will they just be in the EDC next year?

My understanding is they'll play an independent schedule.


That's exactly how it looks on their schedule as well right now...lots of MN teams (their JVs?) and a few SD & ND teams (also looks to be JVs for the ND teams).

Re: Class A/ AA plan

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:24 am
by Flip
Run4Fun2009 wrote:
scc wrote:
Flip wrote:There was a co-op agreed upon between MPCG, CV, Hillsboro, and Hope-Page I believe for the 17-18 season. Will they just be in the EDC next year?

My understanding is they'll play an independent schedule.


That's exactly how it looks on their schedule as well right now...lots of MN teams (their JVs?) and a few SD & ND teams (also looks to be JVs for the ND teams).

So what is the long term goal of this co-op? is it just to play an independent schedule or do they hope to some day compete in the EDC?

Re: Class A/ AA plan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:57 pm
by madseason
nomogprhokee wrote:Jamestown can go A then! Valley city's hockey program falls apart after squirts for the same reason the park rivers program has struggled after squirts. Valley city has had some very good squirt teams over the past 5 years . They don't retain the players in the "coop". At least Jamestown tries to do it right by using a neutral name and colors in the Coop, unlike the mess they have up in Grafton and park river.

Yep!!

Re: Class A/ AA plan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:11 pm
by madseason
Flip wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:
scc wrote:
Flip wrote:There was a co-op agreed upon between MPCG, CV, Hillsboro, and Hope-Page I believe for the 17-18 season. Will they just be in the EDC next year?

My understanding is they'll play an independent schedule.


That's exactly how it looks on their schedule as well right now...lots of MN teams (their JVs?) and a few SD & ND teams (also looks to be JVs for the ND teams).

So what is the long term goal of this co-op? is it just to play an independent schedule or do they hope to some day compete in the EDC?
Mayport reminds me of the beginning of the Park river program. they had to go west every year to make the state tournament in HS, And they did. Mayport has a great hockey program, don't underestimate them. They are doing it right! If there were a two class system now they would be one of the teams at the top in the east IMO.

Re: Class A/ AA plan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:35 pm
by madseason
hockeynut wrote:
madseason wrote:Class A East- Grafton, Langdon, Park River , Whapeton, Mayport, Valley City. West Fargo sheyanne 1st couple years? West- Crosby, Watford City, Hazen Beulah, Bottineau, Rugby, Richland (Sydney MT). Bismarck Legacy 1st couple years?. AA East- Central, Red River,
Davies, South, North, West Fargo, Devils Lake. West- Bismarck, Bismarck Century, Minot, Mandan, Dickinson, Williston, Jamestown. The season lasts one week longer (might help with the Engelstad problem?) State A tournament a week before the AA regionals. Winner of A gets pick at what region they will be seeded 8th in AA, runner up gets the other. I think schools like Red River, Central, Minot, Bismarck teams could also have enough players that they CUT to make a C squad to play in the A division? This would Grow Hockey in the state. IMO Minnesota does it right.

Valley City co-ops with Jamestown. They don’t have enough players to field a team the way it is. Jamestown would be weaker yet without VC as they have only made state twice since 99’.
Ever think the reason IS the COOP? Who wants to put their kid in something that they know they are going to be traveling to. (play a sport in town son/daughter) Jamestown and Valley City are farther away than GPR I think. Valley City should have their own team IMO.